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Hadad
3hr ago
I object to your characterization of my post as maximum heat. It's maximum light -- it's not my fault the OP was asking for opinions on temperature. Am I to lie and pretend I actually care about the endless parade of institutional barriers to deportation the left comes up with? Am I to feign deep concern with a system so obviously abused we have tens of millions (possibly many more!) illegals in our borders, many of them happily shouting their allegiance to foreign powers, burning American flags, and in general being hostile parasites on my home?
That Chris is petulant about this doesn't mean I'm an outrage baiter. The social contract on immigration enforcement is genuinely dead. Democrats have gleefully imposed chaos on order; I'd like for that to be reversed.
Amadan
Enjoying my short-lived victory
3hr ago
This thread definitely doesn't need more low effort personal attacks.
Amadan
Enjoying my short-lived victory
3hr ago
Given that your OP was pretty heated and begging for heat in return , I still dinged @Chrisprattalpharaptr for taking the bait. Now you're egging him on. You wrote a nice spicy hot take; do not try to turn this whole thread into mutual raspberries.
Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
3hr ago
Reee, my outgroup is full of animals who would never compromise or act in good faith! This justifies me never acting in good faith either.
This can in fact be true, though I would recommend a slower pace of escalation than him even then. How would you know when it is true?
TIRM
3hr ago
When the rich guy inevitably develops a majority health problem, he will pay to have it treated. A pineapple picker lacks this. Easy to survive problems become deadly when you are poor.
Amadan
Enjoying my short-lived victory
3hr ago
Given he was clearly going for maximal heat and outrage, I can't rap you too hard for responding with naked contempt and personal attacks , but this was still naked contempt and personal attacks. When someone posts a "pathetic tough guy screed" of course there is a desire to knock him down a peg, but people are actually allowed to post with hearts full of malice, and while I don't love the sentiment, I'd honestly be stretching to say @Hadad broke the rules and you didn't.
The deportation LARPing events are stupid wastes of political capital meant to appease fools like Catturd that want to watch a few dozen immigrants be manhandled by armored goonsquads on Twitter and Fox News. This is the type of crap that made Dems freak out when they won the presidency and do defacto open borders via loophole. With the current bent now the public will have even more reasons to associate any enforcement of immigration laws with authoritarianism. It's just a dumb, unforced error by Republicans who are listening to their sectarian cheerleaders instead of trying to be strategic with their approach.
If MAGA actually wanted to deal with immigration, they'd first take the R trifecta and pass comprehensive immigration reform like the old Lankford bill, but an even tougher version. Close the loopholes and make it harder for Dem presidents to not enforce the law. Have more of their executive orders get shredded in the courts like DAPA did during Obama's tenure, and like a lot of Trump's EOs always do. This at least does something to prevent the problem from getting worse, and is the lowest rung on the totem pole in terms of political capital required.
Then, if Republicans want to remove the illegals already here, go after the employers that hire them. Break the incentive structure that acts as a magnet to illegal immigrants in the first place. This will cause economic pain and will take a lot more political capital, but is better than hurling immigrants out one-by-one. Note that I don't really think this is actually a good idea, at least for throwing out the entire illegal population as there are a lot of jobs Americans genuinely don't want to do for illegal-tier prices. I'd go after some of the legal immigrants instead, mainly the H1B scourge that's drenched in fraud and that's actually hurting the employment prospects of Americans for good jobs.
LateMechanic
3hr ago
My second thought is to reply, 'Say it louder, and into the microphone, please.' Seriously. Go hop on Fox News and give an interview about how you want to shoot protestors and cruelty is the point and God praise Donald Trump. Write your angry, impotent screeds and spread them as widely as possible - under your real name if you can. There's really nothing better for democratic electoral odds than platforming people like you.
I think he might just get accused of trying to copy Asmongold, who appears to have become one of the most popular streamers & youtubers right now with pretty similar commentary (maybe not quite as violent of fantasy, but in that similar direction). And rather than the democrats wanting to smugly signal boost it, they are in a panic over how to counter that popularity.
Throwaway05
3hr ago
I've read like 200-300 stories in this genre,
How the fuck! So many of them are so damn long.
faceh
3hr ago
Where is this all coming from? Is it rejection? I get rejected a lot, who cares? Do a lot of men not share my love of women?
Must've missed my screed about the current state of Western Women a couple weeks back.
ABigGuy4U
3hr ago
Massive immediate shortage of consumer goods, industrial parts and equipment, some kinds of food (which isn’t grown in China but is often shipped there to be packed or processed or canned), and basic military equipment (boots, uniforms, etc).
thejdizzler
4hr ago
I have had second dates, but not with Catholic women. I think the issue is my heterodoxy.
Closedshop
話說天下大勢，分久必合，合久必分
4hr ago
That part is not about working, but about taxes.
faceh
4hr ago
That's a bit tricky though.
You turned him down, even after he invested in a gift, and he kept pursuing. And I don't know what if any signals he was reading that led him to think it would succeed.
Meanwhile, the advice that men would get, both from most women and men, is you have to move on after a rejection, because continuing on is 'creepy,' or is 'simping' (ESPECIALLY the gift-giving), or maybe even straight up stalking or harassment. How many rejections is a man supposed to 'ignore'? How much should he invest before it becomes throwing good money after bad?
There is no good answer. And there's the risk of a woman actively exploiting this tendency in men to pump as much money and effort from him as possible.
This pursuit model of the man slowly, politely grinding down a woman's barriers and making increasingly enticing offers for her time and affection is one that I personally prefer. But it just doesn't work very well when women have many available options, and to continually pursue one who has already rejected you just reads as 'desperate' which is a turnoff on its own.
Simply put, why would a guy put himself through that without some reasonable expectation of success?
Supah_Schmendrick
4hr ago
The reason right-leaning news is growing is that it at least tries to get the facts right
Ehhhhhh....some yes, many others no. The pressure to cater to the consumer's pre-existing beliefs is very strong, and right wingers are just as susceptible to confirmation bias and all the other old, familiar rationalist hobbyhorses as lefties.
hydroacetylene
4hr ago
Journalism is a shrinking field, which means you need the respect of your peers to keep working in it, which means ‘impressing other journalists’ is more important than ‘impressing the public’.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
4hr ago
Thank you for the response. Just to press the point, is the worst that would happen to a hypothetical child that he or she would end up like you? Is that so bad?
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
4hr ago
Wow apparently I misclicked because my question was meant for someone else, apologies.
Supah_Schmendrick
4hr ago
Blackbagging by ICE seems to be an extrajudicial process by design
You need to clarify what you are talking about. Are you talking about arrests of individuals who already have a final order of removal or order revoking a lawful visa against them? Are you talking about arrests of individuals based on probable cause that they are in the country illegally? A secret third thing? Immigration law is very complex and, yes, mostly delegated by act of Congress to the administrative branch through administrative adjudication, and discussing it based on vague generalities actively obscures more than it enlightens.
fmac
Ask me about bike lanes
4hr ago
Yeah Isreal is doing an amazing job shitting all over their military and nuclear programs.
It's just very unlikely to cause a regime change or cause Iran significant long term harm. They'll be neutered for the next few years for sure though.
ThomasdelVasto
Κύριε, ποίησόν με ὄργανον τῆς ἀγάπης σου
4hr ago
Hmm I suppose I am, though from your reply it sounded like you had done none of those things.
I could go down a whole rabbit whole on history and the symbolic worldview versus materialism etc but idk I don’t want to evangelize if you aren’t into it hah. Thanks for following up.
TIRM
4hr ago
actively fund the destruction of everything that used to give life meaning
That's certainly one way to portray working.
Lykurg
We're all living in Amerika
4hr ago
I have a bit of a different perspective than the other two here, but perhaps it will help you understand them.
The evidence for human free will appears to me to be overwhelmingly strong
If I ask you why you did xyz, you can probably give me an answer. In what sense is that answer true, if the reasons you give me didnt cause you to take the action? If you agree that they caused the action, congratulations, thats all the determination materialism requires. This is an unconventional perspective to take on actions, but a common one on beliefs. It is in this sense that people say they dont choose what they believe; my reasons are as they are, and they cause me to believe as I do. And for me, "I would really like believing it" is not one of the reasons that convince me (at least, not a very convincing one) - so it may be that I want to believe something but dont believe it. I dont know what "observation of free will" you think contradicts this, but IME people are unable to describe it in non-circular terms.
You can't compare their Kolmogorov complexity, or Minimum Message Length, or employ any other test to determine which of them is more likely than the other
Those are some very heavy guns for what in this case amounts to a very simple argument: What reason is there for thinking the uncaused cause is embodied in a human born around 0 AD? Not a cosmological reason; because it is quite different from the phenomena which are visible cosmology, and would be complex to nail down based on them (try if you dont believe me!). By contrast, there could be cosmological evidence for a seamless loop; a big crunch for example may just imply it as a straighforward application of ordinary physcial laws. There are other things which could be proven by cosmology, even if none of them are currently - but christianity is not one of them. If there are reasons to think the first cause is the christian god specifically, they are not about cosmology, and would likely be just as convincing without making the first cause argument to begin with, so dont.
Object all you want. "I hate my enemies and want them to suffer" may indeed be a sincere statement. It's also clearly meant to generate heat.
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