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Grant_us_eyes
1m ago
Prop 8 in California passed just 17 years ago, banning gay marriage - it was struck down by a judge.
I would volunteer that gay marriage has never been as popular as people have claimed, and support has either been driven by wide-spread media-driven propaganda, the social pressure to 'be nice', gays are very much a minority in the wider population(hence, lack of exposure), or a mix of all of the above.
But now that we've had 17 years of exposure to how all this works out, people have become more negative toward it.
Jiro
2m ago
True. So let me modify the question a bit.
He may not want to personally reduce suffering as much as possible. But not only does he not do it himself, he also seems to think that people who do do so are misguided. Why would he think that it's misguided to reduce suffering as much as possible?
Skulldrinker
5m ago
A lot of anime. It overlaps with "humans don't deserve to exist" quite a bit.
professorgerm
You shall love your crooked neighbor, with your crooked heart
6m ago
Smoked canned oysters aren't bad but they're not nearly as good as fresh with a little mignonette. Even more fun is finding a decent oyster bar to sample a few varieties and compare the merroir.
netstack
Texas is freedom land
7m ago
I don’t think this is true, but I suppose it’s rather hard to prove.
There’s no particular statement that crossed the line, but if I had to point to the biggest red flag, I’d blame the scare quotes.
Don't paraphrase unflatteringly. Don't imply that someone said something they did not say, even if you think it follows from what they said.
Tree
7m ago
He's a nazi who pretends to be inoffensive braindead left and gets banned for ban evasion, he's nothing like Turok.
professorgerm
You shall love your crooked neighbor, with your crooked heart
8m ago
It's a massive implicit value judgement like the egregious slimeball that successfully argued Just Mayo as in "justice" is acceptable.
I don't care about calling pea-protein-derived spread "mayo." I do care about abusing multiple definitions of the word "just" in misleading ways, and someone should regularly egg Josh Tetrick's house for this offense against language and decency.
"Just" go ahead and label it "we're the good guys, neener neener."
Jiro
10m ago
Listen, I did not intentionally trap those Sims in their living room. The placement of the stove was an innocent mistake. That fire could have happened anywhere! A terrible tragedy.
There would be some level of getting emotionally attached to how the Sims "suffer" that I would indeed consider suspicious. I presume you are not at this level, though of course I have no proof.
TheAntipopulist
Formerly Ben___Garrison
11m ago
People just hated Darwin since he was unabashedly left-wing.
The guy who deletes his posts was weird but I don't really think he fits this mold either. His posts were mostly short -- I don't recall him really gesturing at anything particularly bad, but maybe I'm misremembering.
Primaprimaprima
...something all admit only "TRUMP", and the Trump Administration, can do.
21m ago
Well feelings are always important. They aren't always "valid", if "valid" means, they should be unconditionally affirmed, or that a person's interpretation of their own feelings is always correct. But they're certainly always important -- as symptoms, as signposts, as signifiers. There's no accurate model of any interpersonal interaction that excludes feelings.
Eupraxia
Shut up and quantify
24m ago
So you believe that the purpose of genitals is to engage in sexual intercourse, defined as PIV resulting in internal ejaculation, correct? Furthermore, you believe that using genitals for sexual acts outside of sexual intercourse is immoral or at least improper, yes?
Such a narrow understanding of telos seems... fragile. The way I see it, using one's genitals in a way that does not deposit semen intravaginally is less like using a gun as a table leg and more like using a flathead screwdriver as a pry: it's not the "primary" purpose of the object(s), but it's a valid alternate application that can be rewarding if used properly.
JarJarJedi
25m ago
He has a lot of weird things, but how many people exactly got a free run for several months to try and reform US government? I mean, this is a gargantuan task, and Musk if probably severely deluded if he thinks he can accomplish it under the power of his own personal will alone, but how many people actually got at least as far as he did? How many people have managed to kill a $50 billion US federal government agency? How many people could actually get the power to audit Social Security and Treasury money flows? I mean not talk for 30 years about how we need to audit this and that, but actually get access to the freakin data?
He is weird, and he does weird things, and some of the weird things maybe impede his success, but I think he's a pretty "powerful thing" as he is already.
Tree
27m ago
Personally if I was a mod I'd take a pretty hands-off approach. Permabans essentially never, suspensions only rarely.
Amen to that. I wanted to express that I do not "understand the frustration". This isn't a therapy session, your feelings aren't valid.
FtttG
28m ago
Say what you will about the Amish and similar, they hang on. In 3000 AD there may not be a Silicon Valley but there will be Pennsylvania Dutch.
Per Wikipedia, even the Amish are only 300 years and change old. We're talking about Harvard, not the Catholic Church.
Botond173
28m ago
It’s a bit of a mischaracterization to argue that ‘Germany and Russia gave up [Polish] territory between them’, isn’t it? It wasn’t exactly a matter of choice in either case, especially not in the case of czarist (or Soviet) Russia. I’ll concede that Wilson probably had a significant role in the creation of Poland as well, although this is not a subject I’m familiar with.
Anyway, I agree with your point in the sense that Hungary did in fact have a bicameral parliamentary system as the member state of a dualist monarchy before and during WW1, and was as such exposed to Western concepts of rule of law, civil rights, freedom of the press etc. although to a limited extent indeed. The transitional period of 1918-21 in contrast was characterized by wars, unrest, socio-economic collapse, internment, pogroms, terror and the general brutalization of the population, which hardly constitute a breeding ground for democratization. The regime that ended up consolidating itself was clearly right-wing and authoritarian, but the bicameral parliament and the multi-party system remained, which was still something. In the case of Bulgaria and Romania, I imagine whatever political role their parliamentary system was equally or even more limited.
Primaprimaprima
...something all admit only "TRUMP", and the Trump Administration, can do.
31m ago
Mostly trolls whose names I've forgotten. That guy who keeps making alt accounts here to post WN articles and then delete them is kinda like that.
Apparently darwin was kinda like that, although I never interacted with darwin personally.
Primaprimaprima
...something all admit only "TRUMP", and the Trump Administration, can do.
32m ago
I said that I disagreed with the ban (suspension, really, not even a ban).
I have repeatedly argued for "affirmative action" for left-of-center posters here. I think they should explicitly be given more leeway before mods dole out punishments, because their viewpoints are underrepresented.
Personally if I was a mod I'd take a pretty hands-off approach. Permabans essentially never, suspensions only rarely. And I would not have suspended Turok for anything he's posted so far.
BurdensomeCount
—Your em dash is showing...
33m ago
Why would people in the third world only get two generations of growth and then decline? They catch up to the west and then the great vehicle takes forward all of humanity towards higher and higher levels of economic welfare all together. It's not too much to expect rich developed countries to become economic Bodhisattvas, they will always be at least as far along the path of enightenment luxury gay space communism as everyone else.
If one wishes to escape the cycle of Samsara boom and bust there is no other alternative.
ThisIsSin
Cainanites and Abelists
35m ago
Why would having sexual intercourse in general be the equivalent of shooting to kill?
No, the purpose of having proper sexual intercourse (i.e. using your genitals "properly, for their intended use") is the equivalent here. Not just sexual intercourse in general in the "mutual masturbation" sense, which is as suspect (smuggled assumption: sinful?) as "using a gun only for target practice" is to certain other people.
Again, genitals (as with guns) can be used for pair bonding and pleasure, it's just that that's not their telos/"what they're meant for".
Tree
36m ago
Here’s an idea: Just fucking take it. Argue whatever the hypothetical is. Or don’t. But don’t censor. You are among friends here, right-winger. You don’t need to use the mods to crush your political opposition. You have your numbers, your downvotes (Turok is consistently downvoted even for neutral comments, which btw already censors him). This burning hatred for any left-of center commenter is embarassing.
JarJarJedi
39m ago
That way of thinking easily leads to unbounded paranoia. Yes, Trump didn't issue an executive order to round up all foreign-born people into camps, but he might do it. Yes, SCOTUS made it pretty clear they don't like the government to revoke the citizenship retroactively, but they might change their minds. Yes, there's no official state-sanctioned cult of Trump The Divine with five daily kneeled prayers and mandatory floggings of non-citizens, but there might be. I mean, no known physical law forbids it, and even if they did, there might be new law discoveries that allow things that we consider impossible now.
You have to stop this somewhere, otherwise it will lead you into madness. Worrying about things that might happen if the world became completely unlike the world we're living in now is not the way to live in the world we're living in now.
hydroacetylene
41m ago
It seems to be code for ‘the aesthetics of 2000’s democrats’.
Since when did population ratios matter? They certainly didn't matter to the British Raj or to the conquistadors. Sure, the power gap between whites and everyone else is smaller than it was in 1870, or even 1492, but most of the other ~7.2 billion people on Earth simply can't constitute a real existential threat to whites, you don't even need HBD to justify it. Even wrt China, they're a unproven upstart that lacks the proven track record of Europeans in global dominance.
seeing only one kind of racial solidarity as unacceptable is A) illiberal and B) corrosive to multicultural societies.
I offer an explanation, not an excuse. As for multicultural societies, their myriad weaknesses have already been extensively detailed, what's one more?
... while right-wing posters get to regularly accuse people on this forum of being delusional, claim outgroup politicians are "foreign agents", claim that anyone who holds specific positions is "too dumb to vote", etc. without even getting warned most of the time.
Unfortunate feedback loop gets generated that the most obnoxiously combative are most likely to stick around, until you get Turoks that everyone hates and provide no positive comments, and after that point anyone even vaguely associated gets tarred with the same brush.
Extremely difficult to undo at this stage.
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