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cartman
2d ago
I think this is a terrible recommendation for someone who is bothered by this behaviour.
Regardless of whether the police are more armed than you or not, I think it should be fairly self explanatory why there are both legal and practical reasons why it's preferable for the police to deal with this situation, again, assuming it bothers you. They have legal authority, there may be multiple of them, and the assailant will likely respond differently to them than a random stranger.
You haven't actually explained, why "should you" deal with it yourself? You open yourself up to legal liability. You invite the risk of being harmed in an escalation of the conflict. The only benefit I can see is that you can potentially dearm the assailant faster than the authorities can get there and do so. But if they're so minor of a threat anyway in your eyes, then that doesn't matter very much. So what is the upside?
Also, you are equivocating between the damage a 12 year old can do against an adult man who is already facing and confronting her vs the absolute damage they can do. If this person is waving an axe around people in public threatening them, I think it's totally reasonable to have a valid concern they might hurt someone more vulnerable.
I also think that while you're probably right in a lot of situations it only ever takes one or two unlucky swings/stumbles for the underdog to win. I don't agree that the threat is so minimal as to be essentially ignored
self_made_human
amaratvaṃ prāpnuhi, athavā yatamāno mṛtyum āpnuhi
2d ago
I used to be Caucasian before being exposed to the merciless heat of the Caledonian countryside?
aldomilyar
2d ago
Yeah but he's very firm on trying to escape India (for a myriad of justified reasons inclusive of locals)
s per the link from jkf, the dude is a """digital creator"""... The only thing left to find out is if he's working for an NGO.
Thanks for the link I hadn't scrolled. Oh my. Well, if that's the case I suppose the blackpill doesn't taste so bad going down.
EDIT: It now occurs to me that one answer to "not even trying" perception: kids are awkward and do lots of things inexplicably poorly. Assuming this guy is mostly a normal pedestrian, then it's a good thing the girl, sensing discipline, acts awkwardly and doesn't commit to anything too crazy.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2d ago
Because girls don't know a lot about intimidation. Not even on the streets.
I'm saying: not even trying, not trying and failing.
I am suspicious of all short videos.
As per the link from jkf, the dude is a """digital creator""". This video is short, because that's how he wanted it, which means he's hiding something. The quotes in the paper make him sound like OJ Simpson.
I'm calling it / doubling down: the whole thing is fake. She's not Braveheart, and he's not a poor migrant targeted by racist chavettes, which is what this video was originally meant to show, but backfired. The only thing left to find out is if he's working for an NGO.
falling-star
2d ago
Shoot man, I was just there yesterday, I woulda met up. I had a good time wandering the High Line in Manhattan. If you care about architecture it's basically a site seeing tour for that. There's a great quality yet cheap Japanese place called KENKA on Saint Marks Place. $7 for a bowl of hearty ramen and $7 for a 20oz bottle of beer with good vibes. Otherwise don't forget to check out central park. It really does live up to the hype.
ulyssessword
2d ago
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
2d ago
brown people.
I thought @self_made_human was brown people(*)!
Wait, were you using a generic "you"?
ActuallyATleilaxuGhola
Axolotl Tank Class of '24
2d ago
That is utterly bizarre. Were they overprotective dads? Or were they actually just complete randos?
She doesn't look like she's even trying to be intimidating
Because girls don't know a lot about intimidation. Not even on the streets. They see what boys intimidating people looks like and and try to emulate it. Given enough time, dedication, and maturity the insecurity is dropped and girls can go pull the weave out dat hoes head without thinking it's not hard enough. Ain't no bitch need to fight like a man.
The other part that is suspicious is the length of the video. Why is it so short?
I am suspicious of all short videos. I assume she wasn't filming or calling the police, because she was breaking the law. How much earlier did the blades come out in the altercation? No idea, but doesn't look like she carries them on her person.
The Rittenhouse narrative that the media tried to drum up made no sensw from the start, it wasn't a case ofnmissing context.
The people that latched onto the narrative didn't need context. They still don't need the (truthful) context, because they already know what they want to believe. That is selfmade's point, but he is polite.
Despite sympathizing with the outrage quite a bit I fear demand for migrant rapists has already exceeded supply. The UK has only been able to openly talk about this for a few years!
dragonfly
2d ago
I love the recurring word "organically" here. Translation: "I didn't have to ask for this dammit."
I'm sorry I missed this entire discussion by two weeks, but I won't reanimate it now.. I'm sure it'll come around again, and I hope you can forgive me this one necropost. A lot of people in this thread could take advice from each other, but I'm entertained by the pushback you and mrvanillasky are getting on what is basically the attracting-women equivalent of Calories In/Calories Out.
lagrangian
2d ago
Is it an open coworking space in addition to the bootcamp? Or what is there to check out here?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2d ago
The self-styled 'digital creator'...
Ok, things are starting to coalesce...
jkf
2d ago
This just in:
Now we can reveal the man being threatened is a family man who has been living in the UK for four years – and who was accompanied by his wife on the way to the shops when the incident occurred.
Far from being fresh off a cross-channel small inflatable, as implied by Robinson and Musk, Fatos Ali Dumana, 21, says he came to Britain legally from Bulgaria he and his wife have an eight-month-old baby.
Fatos Ali Dumana -- very Bulgarian, much European ethnicity.
@Quantumfreakonomics @hydroacetylene -- just in case you were wondering.
In the 45 seconds of footage I saw, the girl start out keenly aware that brandishing her weapons on camera is bad, wrong, or illegal. This is why the video starts with her hiding the weapons. Called out, the punk instinct kicks in, and she reveals her weapons.
That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. She doesn't look like she's even trying to be intimidating, and the punk instinct in this specific situation is to run, not to try to scare away a guy twice your size.
The other part that is suspicious is the length of the video. Why is it so short? Ok, maybe this is where he turned on the camera - why isn't it played until the situation is concluded? It obviously belongs to the guy, did he upload it? This specific cut of it?
Just like it was possible that Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist, and that possibility carries on to the present.
The Rittenhouse narrative that the media tried to drum up made no sense from the start, it wasn't a case ofnmissing context.
-I've never been to an IRL Motte/SSC diaspora meet up but I've always figured you'd have a chance at getting some of the paranoid opsec types with an open invite to some location instead of a direct "lets meet up." Food for thought?
Excellent idea. I will be at Gebhard's Beer Culture in the upper west side, this Saturday (8/30) at 5pm. Happy hour runs until 6. I will stay until at least 7. First round's on me.
I don't know NYC well, so if that's a terrible pick, suggestions are welcome.
I'll be in a black tshirt with shrodinger's cat on it.
Related question: are there any rationalist discords/meetups etc in NYC?
(Assuming that the girl started an interaction and was harassing/intimidating, which we don't know):
But I see no situation where he is actually a positive contributor to the community.
I think there is a case for thinking (not saying) 'fuck you, you little punk. You don't get to scare me out of public spaces. I'll film this for the police.'
I do agree most people would leave, however there is a pro-social element of recording teenage thugs to make public spaces safer. Particularly if they interact with and brandish a weapon at you. Its not for everyone and its probably prudent to just leave things be and tell any police you walk past what happened.
If the kid hadn't initiated an interaction though and the man did (say after spotting she was carrying an axe), well its much harder to justify that in the current zeitgeist.
Edit: Looks like the kid started it (the guy says he has a witness and cctv reviewed by police) from @jkf
faul_sname
Fuck around once, find out once. Do it again, now it's science.
2d ago
10?
ThisIsSin
Liberty has an anti-privilege bias
2d ago
but it's the exact opposite of traditional conservative ideas
Which traditional conservative ideas would those be? "Ensure the means to produce an absurdly vital strategic resource with a lead-up time measured in decades remains possible in $country" is something even minarchists believe the role of government should cover.
It's literally the best case scenario; the US only has one manufacturer of space-magic technology that isn't within trivial striking distance of its enemies. Samsung is, TSMC is, even Intel's own fabs are (the ones it built in Israel).
It seems fair to me.
Because pointing a camera at a 12-year-old girl and following her around while she's clearly trying to disengage is A-tier creepy behaviour.
Is there a video longer than the than the 45 second one? There are a number of types of altercations that result in a Bulgarian man feeling compelled to, provoked into, or choosing to film a girl wielding a couple blades instead of walking away. Potentially, the Bulgarian man was not actually threatened by the encounter, but understood it was illegal, wrong, or entertaining. Most of the scenarios I envisage involve the kid instigating some shit as kids who stash weapons on the block do. Filming obscene, novel, or even dangerous things is now the response I expect from most people. Do it for the gram, fam.
In the 45 seconds of footage I saw, the girl start out keenly aware that brandishing her weapons on camera is bad, wrong, or illegal. I guess whatever preceded this was meant to be for show, but not to show everyone. This is why the video starts with her hiding the weapons. Called out, the punk instinct kicks in, and she reveals her weapons. She must be well educated in the arts of the street, because upon a challenge she chooses to keep it real.. What is she gonna do, stab me? Wu-tang!
There's a possibility that this girl is what many want it to be. Just like it was possible that Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist, and that possibility carries on to the present. Maybe she had ready access to weapons in the land of loicenses because she was practicing for an upcoming tryout for the local HEMA club. Maybe. Perhaps she, to borrow language from people I associate with the outrage, dindu nuffin.
So I'm not beating up on a potential victim I'll pledge $100 to a Scottish youth charity that looks like it goes to underprivileged (white) Scots so long as we find reasonable suspicion the girl in the video is responding to immediate sexual advances by the man filming her. If there's no such of charity I'll ask locals decide where it should go.
CertainlyWorse
No one is coming. It's just you.
2d ago
'Choppy helps out!' - my sides. He certainly does.
DiscourseMagnus
2d ago
This point reminds me of one of the more bemusing points from my adolescence, which was that during unusual hours, it was relatively common for creepy adult men to sit in their cars around my school and film children and teenagers. They had the angriest, most hateful looks on their faces when they did it. I don't think that they were even (mostly) pedophiles, they came across more as busybodies and paranoiacs, with their attention more directed at boys who could plausibly be mistaken for a threat than at girls. It was a very nice school, too! Just a small and relatively well-hidden-away one that these people could convince themselves was just a random building where teens were congregating and loitering for no reason.
To be fair, though, maybe they actually were pedophiles and they just got those looks on their faces because they noticed that I noticed them. Who knows. Old memory.
Sunshine
2d ago
with Vance simply refusing to debate any challengers
Vance did extremely well in the last set of debates. I would expect him to agree to debate challengers even if he is coronated. The challengers get to build their national presence, Vance gets to build momentum. When debating is one of your strengths you take the free airtime.
Secondly, I already know the Bulgarian guy who was holding the camera phone is a creep. Do you know how I know? Because pointing a camera at a 12-year-old girl and following her around while she's clearly trying to disengage is A-tier creepy behaviour.
This tbqh famalam. I have avoided commenting on this anywhere because it's so ridiculous. A 12 year old chavette has an axe in the park. To paraphrase the great Tyler the Creator, nigga just walk away from the child just like nigga turn around and leave haha.
I don't have anything to add about Fuentes irrelevance besides what everyone else has already said, I wanted however to comment on this:
I think the opposite is more likely to happen. Yes, it's true that the boomer evangelical constituency will die off in the next decade and they were rabidly pro-israel. However the rest of the republican base is more or less indifferent to this question, the pockets of antisemitism are truly small. OTOH in the Democratic party Hassan (who is actually influent, unlike Fuentes) can go full anti-zionist and face no repercussions, anti-zionism and even anti-semitism make a lot of sense within the internal logic of progressivism (jews are a market dominating, overrepresented, minority, black people hate them because they screw over rappers and israel is the last colonialist project) and disliking palestinans makes a lot of sense on the right.
If europe didn't exists you'd maybe have a chance to keep muslims as a fargroup and push the "muslims are actually based" idea through, but I the european right is going to make available too many examples of muslims being non-based for that to be possible.
I think what's more likely to happen is that one of the democratic candidates will eventually break anti-zionist and then the republican party will either consolidate into pro-israel as a reflex or at best remain indifferent.
For your prediction to come true the relationship between israel and palestine needs to normalize and stay normal for a long time.
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