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The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
1hr ago
Based on gold instead of CPI, that would be about $10,000. About the same as a coyote would supposedly charge for a Central American, except the immigrant gets to keep the money.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2hr ago
The tariff case is at the Supreme Court now. IIRC, Trump won on most but not all of the DOGE things.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2hr ago
Congress is so passive that presidents end up enacting policy through rather strained interpretations of existing law. The law says they get to impose processing fees? Then instead of $250 it is $100k. And then hope courts agree this is valid.
No, it's much worse than that. There's a law (8 U.S.C. § 1182(f)) which says the president may exclude or restrict certain classes of aliens if they are detrimental to the interests of the United States. The proclamation uses that discretion to impose the fee -- it's a "restriction". The law does not mention fees. This is IMO the sort of thing the Major Questions Doctrine is supposed to rule out; you shouldn't be able to build an entire regulatory structure on what appears to be an emergency provision. I doubt the Supreme Court has the balls to go against Trump on this, though.
Tanista
2hr ago
The same goes for religious claims, ethical claims, all sorts of claims for which no empirical verification is possible.
I think there's a difference between censoring speech made for claims that we cannot really settle beyond raw power or tolerance and censoring research that theoretically can settle those claims. It leads to a strange agreement between the censor and their victim on the stakes in a way that doesn't have to be true in other case.
Maybe Frankfurt's distinction between lying and bullshit - lying at least acknowledges the concept of truth even as you point people away from it, bullshit denies that the truth is meaningful in the first place.
Yes, statements can be truth-apt without being empirically verifiable in practice. OrAnd there are cases where the stakes or what would settle the issue are themselves in doubt. In which case there's nothing for it but philosophy I suppose , since that's the role it can maintain in a world where science is ascendant.
I think a lot of the actual culture war debates do not escape empiricism in practice though, even if people try to insist that it's just a matter of differing definitions floating in the ether.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
2hr ago
I guess if you say that all the atheism is just Christian heresy (would be quite a claim)
Not that outlandish. In many cases, the God they didn't believe in was specifically the Christian God.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2hr ago
I'm saying that "existence is amazingly extraordinary" (backed by hours of hypnotic monologues by Sagan, Dawkins, or Tyson) has been literally what secular humanists were saying in order to generate a sense of awe similar to that of religious epiphanies.
Your particular argument destroys any such attempt. Even if secular humanism remains ubdeboonked, it's left barren of any higher goal.
orthoxerox
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2hr ago
No idea, I used the inflation-adjusted value of $50 in 1892.
orthoxerox
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2hr ago
Parse it as "the whole God thing is a bunch of hogwash"
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
2hr ago
Isn't that literally what secular humanism was trying to sell as an alternative to religion?
I do not think "you can't explain what is literally beyond known existence" is a criticism that destroys secular humanism.
WhiningCoil
Ghost of Quokka's Future
2hr ago
So, I've been going to Catholic mass about 6 months now with my family. I guess I've spoken before about having belief fatigue, and being willing just go "fuck it" and believe whatever they tell me in Church for the first time at the ripe age of 40+. I've found most of the selected readings and hymns (which are standardized) fairly illustrative of the human condition and/or appropriately praiseworthy of a divine creator that can save your soul. One day the hymns even hit me in just the right way to bring me to tears. The homilies have been good, and entirely about being a better person, and doing works to make the world a better place. They don't point fingers or lay blame, except the exhort each and every one of us to be better. Kinder, more patient, more proactive to help others. I've gotten better at following along with the lord's prayer, the creed and the penitential act. I still can't follow along when they bust out Gloria or Holy Holy Holy.
It's been good for me, and for my family and I highly recommend it.
Muninn
"Dick Laurent is dead."
2hr ago
I’ve been reading Ars Technica for years — I loved John Siracusa’s old macOS deep dives — but the tone of their reporting has shifted. A lot of it feels like “heckin science!” coverage
(snip)
Funny, it seems like a decade ago that I myself was Noticing that Ars was following the path of Slashdot and no longer worth a read. Shame, too, they were one of the good ones BITD; I learned a lot from Jon Stokes' articles there.
incognitomaorach
2hr ago
I guess if you say that all the atheism is just Christian heresy (would be quite a claim)
This has been a pretty popular take I've seen floating around over the last few years actually. Tom Holland pushes it and repeats it on pretty much every religiously adjacent podcast he goes on. His view (at least expressed in his book 'Dominion') is that a) necessarily European modes of thought are themselves Christian, so that liberalism, enlightenment thought, rationality, and so on, are themselves essentially Christian, and b) specifically the concept of the secular is unique to Christianity, which ties in with atheistic modes of thought via some extra steps. For context, Holland is a pretty milquetoast liberal, albeit a (cultural?) Christian.
I've also seen versions of the view popular in NRx circles. Nick Land has been on a liberalism = anglo-being kick for a while now, and I think would agree that Dawkins style New Atheism is itself essentially Anglo (and therefore Protestant). I can't remember who else off the top of my head has made similar claims but the narrower "atheism is just protestantism taken to it's logical conclusion" view is also one of I've seen pushed by online Catholics.
Amadan
Enjoying my short-lived victory
2hr ago
Well, we try not to be overly zealous in policing thread contents, but it seems like this is more of a CW topic (which is allowed in the Small Questions thread) but it's not really a question. So it looks like basically a really low-effort CW post. I would prefer you put a smidge more effort into making it a conversation starter rather than just "Look at this sneer-fodder."
hydroacetylene
2hr ago
Less black than the general population, probably more Hispanic/asian than most Protestant churches. African Americans overwhelmingly belong to black baptist/lectionary denominations or black mega churches. African immigrants are as likely to be Catholic as Pentecostal- and normie baptist as either.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
2hr ago
I don't think that this is the definition of "miracle" used by the Bible, or any other religious text, written before the scientific method was established.
Can that which encompasses all ever be extraordinary?
Isn't that literally what secular humanism was trying to sell as an alternative to religion?
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
3hr ago
To my layman understanding of miracles there has to be an established understanding of a secular mechanism which is then defied by the alleged miracle. The existence of the universe does not match this because we have no established understanding of a secular mechanism according to which the universe couldn't (or could) exist.
Can that which encompasses all ever be extraordinary?
Muninn
"Dick Laurent is dead."
3hr ago
Yes, essentially. I'll have to check out more of his work and I've been impressed with the translation, too. I've particularly noticed the abbreviated speech of some of the characters and I can't help but think that the translator is mimicking the Japanese tendency towards the same in their speech.
FtttG
3hr ago
I didn't think it warranted a top-level post in the CW thread as I only intended it as an interesting tidbit. Should I delete?
orthoxerox
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3hr ago
Then respectfully, their jobs should be going to American workers. There is no role in any FAANG company (unless you mean NVIDIA instead of Netflix) where there are no qualified Americans. As an industry "tech" does not have any super secret squirrel sauce that you can't find employees for in most first world countries, its just about how many you can find and what you pay them (chipmaking is a different ball game of course).
You sound like a trade union organizer. A lot of American dominance of the world economy relies on the fact that it's not generally encumbered by trade union deals (and it has lost the race in the industries where unions are dominant, like shipping, car making and teaching). What you're proposing is basically a massive country-sized white-collar union.
Reaching the final third of Reverend Insanity, @self_made_human please clap.
I found that it is easier to tolerate the "light novel with Chinese characteristics" narration style if I imagine I'm reading a folk tale. The same formulaic language, the same bombastic emotion display (particularly bystanders marveling at someone whipping out particularly strong techniques). Not the kind of tale you'd read to your child at bedside, though. Truly, the profundities of human path are opening up before me.
This unironically is basically the primary argument of Al-Ghazali's famous (or infamous, depending on your perspective) Incoherence of the Philosophers. He basically argues that all of the debating and mental masturbation by a lot of philosophers and theologists are thinly veiled covers for their atheism. He was mostly talking about Islam, but many of the same arguments can easily be applied to many Christian thinkers.
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