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phailyoor
14m ago
Society has certainly decided that bleeping out the fuck word makes the work less obscene. See all those songs that are bleeped out.
Dean
Flairless
18m ago
'There is now way Trump will get away with [latest thing] this time!'
Not going to lie, mate, you are kind of all over the place on this. You say that this suit 'just put things into overdrive,' but your conclusion is really just jamming a lot of different concept that could be these [things].
In paragraph one, it was the survival (preferably end) of Trump's political career. In paragraph two it... could just as well apply to a thing you characterize as would have been a non-scandal if only Trump waited a weekend? Or maybe the Murdoch trap. You kind of veer from one into the other. By paragraph three, it's the terrible prospects of a disposition of a guy who (repeatedly) had (multiple) hostile prosecutions and investigations leak unflattering things for decades. Come paragraph four, it's how bad the optics will be for a guy who won his first presidential election after an audiotape of 'grab them by the pussy,' followed by a technically-not-treason conspiracy, and, well, way too many bad optics to list.
So when you throw in things like this-
But Trump is impulsive, and wasn't going to wait until Monday to file, wasn't going to give himself a chance to cool down. Get it out Friday. Now he has opened himself up to a world of hurt that he couldn't imagine beforehand.
Dude. Dude.
This is a guy who has been variously accused of rape, infidelity, insurrection, and racism in various courts for the better part of a decade. He was the target of a historically unprecedented fraud prosecution in which the largest fraud fine in New York history was leveled against him despite the victim testifying on his behalf. So many novel legal theories have been used against him that entire aspects of constitutional law have been developed to manage it. There have been multiple government conspiracies that we know about that aimed to hurt him in court.
I am going to go on a slight limb here and suggest that maybe, just maybe, Donald Trump has a better idea of the world of hurt that comes with court cases than you do.
WhiningCoil
20m ago
I mean, as I said
Depends on your diagnosis of the problem. If you believe, as I increasingly do, that most of our societal ills with corruption and collapse of state capacity revolve around the mass importation of high time preference demographics incapable at a genetic level of pursuing generational projects, deporting them is not only a solution, but the only solution. Because with that anchor tied to your feet, no state project, be it reinvigorating capitalism, monopoly busting or state run grocery stores can possibly succeed. If the labor market is flooded with lazy scammers who shameless loot the till, it's not going to matter if the grocery store is a coop, state run, unionized or anything.
I can nearly promise you, with that much state money being dumped into the project and with that little food on shelves, there is a "community organizer" driving around in a brand new BMW involved somewhere.
OliveTapenade
20m ago
That's where I am as well.
Maybe I'm too cynical here, but to me the WSJ story doesn't seem to add anything that we didn't know before. Trump and Epstein were friends, and Trump says creepy things about young women and sex. We knew that! "Trump engages in sexual misconduct" just isn't a story that I can see going anywhere - Trump supporters have already rationalised that way, and people who would oppose him over it already oppose him.
Unless there is genuinely rock-solid proof of child sex abuse - and I would be shocked if there is - then this just doesn't change anything. Trump is a pervert in the way we already knew he was a pervert. The needle does not move.
OliveTapenade
25m ago
What is your understanding of 'intelligence'?
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
35m ago
If the Iranians can't use certain turns of phrase I consider it a weakness born out of irrationality. If they think it's a trick to make them say it they might be correct; more the fools them that they are open to any harm from taking the trick on the chest.
I will never ever say "███████ l█v█s m█tt█r"
Bleeping it out doesn't make you say it any less than bleeping out one letter from the word "fuck" makes it any less obscene.
DiscourseMagnus
36m ago
I think the MAGA base genuinely cares about
I have a pretty hard time believing anyone with any real power cares about
No contradiction spotted.
OliveTapenade
38m ago
The classic example of people saying nice things about Nazi Germany is the autobahn, right? I think historians still feel free to compliment that.
I suppose I think the consensus around Nazi Germany has moved in the direction that they did make some right calls and pick some low-hanging fruit, but also that a lot of their strengths were either inherited (e.g. the military system) or illusory and exaggerated (e.g. taking credit for the German economic revival). Nazism as a system wasn't uniquely brilliant.
The way TOS frames it is as something like a deal with the devil. You get efficiency, power, a rapid rise to power, social solidarity, etc., and all you have to do is be evil. That's not what was going on with Hitler's Germany.
Alabasata
43m ago
The actually poor whites and blacks won’t eat rice and beans.
The fuck I didn't. Brown rice, black beans, celery, and salt went a long way on $15k/year.
WandererintheWilderness
54m ago
But you did say his name. You typed "Floyd", right there in your message, clear as a bell. If you had some objection to typing out the full "George Floyd", well, I think that's pretty silly, but no one's asking you to do that; you could just have removed "Fentanyl" and said "Floyd's crime wave".
phailyoor
58m ago
Ferguson Effect
Good idea I can say that, as it's a way to refer to the event without saying his name. But I feel like it's less understandable for the average reader, who probably forgot where Ferguson is but remembers the name.
zeke5123a
58m ago
I think he did. Anyone who points a gun at a pregnant women while robbing their house deserves to hang
Though I may use certain tortured phrasing, in order to avoid the enemy's newspeak, my posting is not substantially boo outgroup.
In another example, I will never ever say "███████ l█v█s m█tt█r", even to denounce the movement or group, because simply by saying it the enemy has won a victory over you.
Consider the hypothetical. Suppose Israel named a military unit "Allah is not real and muhammad was a big dum dum." Now would an Iranian newspaper be able to simply report "The Israeli military unit 'Allah is not real and muhammad was a big dum dum' is committing genocide"? I think not. It's a trick meant to put those words in your mouth and I will not play along.
phailyoor
1hr ago
I in fact have always referred to the enemy as the enemy, for at least 5+ years of posting here, even on the reddit. Though I have since nuked most old comments.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
1hr ago
I've heard cholo in films, and it's possible the term has crept into Alabama more in the last few decades due to Mexican influx (lots of new restaurants) but I'd never heard it growing up. Regional differences I imagine. The only people who used nigger were blacks themselves or, if white , the countriest of the country if young, or just longtime residents if old. But I'm gen x born in 1968, giving an indication I imagine of my own parents' era.
phailyoor
1hr ago
They're not the same though. Even though the color may be something trivial to change at the factory, it's still a different product. The customer is willing to pay more for it in fact.
Though in reality women's shaving products are usually not literally the same thing. They often include a rubber cushion which is less common on men's shaving products.
sarker
It isn't happening, and if it is, it's a bad thing
1hr ago
It would be difficult to do that given that the questions were published this week and the answers weren't published until ~today.
sarker
It isn't happening, and if it is, it's a bad thing
1hr ago
How much extra time needs to be spent to work around these tricks when the men's razors are right next to the women's razors?
MaiqTheTrue
Renrijra Krin
1hr ago
I don’t think this ends Trump. The thing you’d need to end Trump is a group of people with both the power and the will to stop him. But I don’t actually see this out there. Even though democrats believe Alligator Alcatraz is a concentration camp feeding people worms, there’s not so much as an investigation on the matter, let alone impeachment proceedings. They say he’s a dictator, and write letters that may as well read “Dear Leader Trump: what you are doing is bad, mean, and we don’t like it. Please stop immediately or we’re sending another letter.” If there’s no action on things that people believe are sending us down the path of imitating mustache man, why would a document that nobody has and a lawsuit make any difference at all?
That’s not how power works. Until those with the power to do something start coordinating to use that power to disempower the other guy, it doesn’t matter. Public opinion doesn’t matter here, nor does the appearance of abuse of authority. Epstein might hurt Trump’s reputation, but it hasn’t changed anything. He’s still the president, and I think a good chunk of the base is more interested in his ability to fix things for them than a letter.
urquan
Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong! Why do you do this thing?
1hr ago
When prima made that post about radical feminism and self-authorship, I worked on a post about different frames of view determining how people see their own lives and the lives of others. I really should finish that up and post it. Basically my point was just along your lines: feminists believe that the freedoms of men and women are different, and so they have a ready-made reason why things might exist that affect women more than men, and that becomes the default assumption. The null hypothesis is sexism if you have that frame of mind, and you need exceptionally strong evidence to counteract it.
Stellula
1hr ago
Trump supposedly sent a letter to Epstein saying how they both find attractive women to be the key to happiness.
Trump has said this before. This isn’t new.
urquan
Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong! Why do you do this thing?
1hr ago
Bridgerton came into my thoughts. I would put that with Hamilton where they made a historical situation multiracial because that was a vision for the story, and no one’s under the impression that they’re depicting a realistic vision of the past.
Hey now, writing predates journals.
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