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Good News Citizens
The FBI has saved Halloween. A terrorist plot dramatically broken up just before Halloween really gets into full swing. Smoking guns averted. Guitar solos as sunglassed G-men arrest terrorists and confiscate AK-47s.
One tidbit does, however, stand out from the article: An FBI undercover person was introduced into the chatroom in the early stages of discussion, that official added.
Register your predictions now. Terrorists busted? Or FBI has created a new fake and gay "terrorist plot" so they can swoop in?
Mine is that some morons just ruined their lives for the greater glory of Kash Patel.
I don't hate that idiots get taken out of circulation. I hate that these are used to build a narrative that there is some greater problem, and the resources waisted.
I've long wondered how many people the FBI radicalizes in an effort to entrap... but then they fall between the cracks. Maybe they start getting their own ideas instead of listening to their FBI handler. Maybe someone retires and their casework gets lost in the shuffle. Maybe the target just can't follow instructions correctly and accidentally commits a terrorist attack at the wrong location so the FBI fails to scoop them up. All sorts of things can go wrong. The FBI is obviously playing with fire, trying to create terrorist so they can then arrest them. If it ever went wrong, they'd probably be the most darkly held secrets the FBI keeps.
It has definitely happened before. Egging on terrorists and then they actually try to mass kill people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack
Actually had a single FBI agent following them as they attempted a mass shooting. Only stopped because of a shootout with off duty law enforcement acting as armed security. If it weren't for armed security they would have slaughtered attendees and I don't suppose a single FBI agent would stop two guys with rifles.
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One of the key figures behind O9A, 764, Atomwaffen, and other offshoots is a FBI informant who runs an extremist literature publishing company. You have to wonder how many people he radicalized over the years, and what percentage of them the FBI managed to apprehend before they committed a serious crime.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/the-satanist-neo-nazi-plot-to-murder-u-s-soldiers-1352629/
https://www.wired.com/story/the-dangerous-exploits-of-an-extremist-fbi-informant/
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‘Suspect was known to the fbi’ describes just about every school shooter.
Hindsight is always 20/20. But even still, a conflux of suspicious behavior isn’t grounds for arresting someone.
A young, bullied and disenfranchised boy who acquires a gun and writes hateful things online often commonly precedes an actual shooting that takes place. But a young man who gets a gun and writes hateful things online but has no desire to shoot a school up can only be watched and monitored. You can’t convict someone on odd or abnormal behavior.
Also just somehow entering a watchlist through automatic keyword flagging doesn't mean anybody is actively monitoring anything.
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It was ATF, not the FBI, but the attempts to entrap Randy Weaver demonstrably were part of the radicalization of McVeigh, although Waco was probably a larger factor and as far as I'm aware wasn't "entrapment" per se.
I think that's strong evidence that the body count is probably positive, but it's always hard to consider counterfactuals --- maybe some would have radicalized anyway.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=266YzszdYUQ?si=ol4djvmRG7fHAG2_
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Not entrapment, no, but very clearly corrupt. There is overwhelming evidence that the investigation was being run as a PR operation, and this focus on generating press rather than law enforcement is the direct cause of the subsequent disaster. Not least because there is strong evidence that the crimes the Davidians were initially being investigated for were entirely fabricated by the ATF.
Waco is one of the worst law-enforcement scandals in American history. Federal Agents and their agencies very clearly committed numerous felonies in an attempt to curry favor with the incoming Clinton administration, and then to cover their asses when it all went horribly, horribly wrong right in front of the TV cameras.
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I mean, why assume it'd be an accident if it happens? I kind of take it for granted that many terrorist attacks are successful ops by the FBI et al, parts of some grand chess game they're playing that involves killing lots of innocent American civilians.
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Remember how the Buffalo shooter was in a groupchat with a "retired" FBI agent and then there were never any followup stories? Weird how that happens.
Or how there was an undercover FBI agent in the second car of terrorists who traveled to the "First Annual Muhammad Art Exhibit and Contest" and he didn't warn anyone of what was happening? Weird again.
I think the FBI denies this one, but there's the 1993 World Trade Center bombing
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You beat me to it.
The FBI is and always has been a fundamentally corrupt organization.
And that's just the FBI, without having to get into the ATF and their shady behavior. Although the "Draw Muhammad" shooting had a crossover element: one of the shooters bought his handgun at Lone Wolf in Phoenix, Arizona, which is the same store the ATF was using as its Project Gunwalker (Fast and Furious) operation center. Quite the coincidence.
My favorite on the ATF's greatest hits:
Defrauding a tobacco co-op out of millions to create an unaccountable slush fund: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/08/us/atf-tobacco-cigarettes.html
Using a literal retard (IQ in the 50's) as a pawn in a sting operation and then pressing charges against him after: https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/04/07/ATF-sting-nets-mentally-handicapped-man/58531365366967/
Is that the same one where a woman ATF agent pretended to be a GF to a retarded kid to get him in trouble?
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In fairness to the ATF, imagining the mentally disabled man cheerfully helping his new friends buy guns and drugs for their fake store is funny. And the prosecutors ended up only seeking probation. A guy with an IQ in the 50s might not even notice he's on it.
He'll probably be sad when his friend the probation officer stops calling and asking him what he's been up to.
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