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Friday Fun Thread for January 16, 2026

Be advised: this thread is not for serious in-depth discussion of weighty topics (we have a link for that), this thread is not for anything Culture War related. This thread is for Fun. You got jokes? Share 'em. You got silly questions? Ask 'em.

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It’s a current trend on TikTok / Instagram to post pictures of yourself from 2016. Next month, in early February, we will celebrate our own 10th anniversary of the Culture War Thread. What are we doing to mark the occasion?

Scott made his request for a culture war thread on Feb 14th of 2016 https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/02/14/ot43-roses-are-thread/

This is one of the oldest culture war threads I could find from reddit (and it might actually be the oldest):

https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/470zk9/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_february_22/

It is weird seeing comments from myself in the thread. About a third of the usernames in there are deleted. Some of the other ones I hovered over are suspended. No one else I could find from there is over here on themotte. Was anyone else there for the inception of the culture war threads? Did you just have a different username back then?

I can't help but feel old. But I was young then and am arguably still young now. My opinions have hilariously not changed an inch from back then. I guess that could be good or bad.

I was there, but I was lurking then and I'm still lurking now.

No one else I could find from there is over here on themotte. Was anyone else there for the inception of the culture war threads?

Yes.

I can't find any Culture War thread comments from myself until December, but I was at least posting in threads that we'd recognize today as too culture-war-adjacent to escape containment, as well as in Culture War stuff pre-CWT.

Hm. Looks like my first CWR post was August 2016, though I'd posted on the SSC subreddit (and a little on the website, though seldom in the open threads) before then.

Churn in a community isn't unusual, though I'll admit the drivers of churn here are different than in other environments.

Shame I missed the halcyon days. I showed up maybe a year or two after the migration to the subreddit.

Ha, "halycon days" more like the red hot opening of the culture war. No one had any mental immunities to culture war stuff. We didn't really know how to talk to each other without getting pissed off. People kept trying to throw around newly discovered superweapons, or unwrap all the old ones that should have been held back for special occasions (racist and nazi accusations). We had an entire subreddit dedicated to hating us. A wiki admin and rational wiki owner set on smearing us. Scott felt the need to discuss culture war topics, not because such articles paid his bills, but because the ideas had infected and ruined his friend groups.

I feel like the culture war has gotten better in that we have figured out how to sort of deal with it, the superweapons have lost their effectiveness. The fanatics aren't always running the show, cooler heads are getting more attention. But its also gotten worse because it spread to the normies and out of academia and limited intellectual circles. And the normies are willing to go on the streets and get violent.

I feel like the culture war has gotten better in that we have figured out how to sort of deal with it, the superweapons have lost their effectiveness. The fanatics aren't always running the show, cooler heads are getting more attention. But its also gotten worse because it spread to the normies and out of academia and limited intellectual circles.

IMO, God-willing, we're just ahead of the curve here --- early adopters of the Culture War, if you will. I think this is a generic narrative arc of an aggressive meme. I'm not even quite sure how to define the current one (it's been difficult to name, even, but feels motivated by the existence of the Internet, among other forces), but there are past examples like "what if we decided we didn't have a king, but that we're defined by Frenchness?" or "what if we used this new printing press to openly question the moral authority of the Pope?". Both of those took hold among the masses and caused decades of conflict (large hot wars, even), before a new lasting coexistence equilibrium was established.

I feel like I've seen some signs that we might have hit peak Culture War. Flame wars aren't edgy anymore, they're almost passe in my IRL social circles. We're re-learning the wisdom of not discussing politics or religion in polite company. The CW ideas aren't new to most of the populace because they've been everywhere for years, and there are fewer newcomers to the memes to become radicalized torchbearers. Maybe things are going to start cooling down.

Agreed, there is also something uncool and a little gross about someone that is very clearly mind rotten from culture war stuff.

I've only encountered a few in real life, but they have given me the ick every time.

It will probably make some people worse in the short term until they start figuring out why they have lost most of their friends.

I was about to point out a few posters I was sure still comment now and again, and checked each to find that they had dropped off or flamed out somewhere along the line.

I didn't expect the loss I'd feel going back through those old threads. I expected some - the distant, secondhand kind I get at an estate sale, thumbing through a dusty and meticulously organized collection of National Geographic. Instead I'm thinking of that gulf of time between then and now, how much has happened and yet how clearly I still remember nodding along to j9461701 and BarnabyCajones, engrossed in mcjunker's stories, or bemusedly seething at darwin2500 and HlynkaCG. Lurking in those threads was more important to my late adolescence than I'm proud of.

I posted less then than I do now, so I can't evaluate any change in opinion with much clarity, but what I wrote still sounds sane. Good for my sense of continuity, though I seem to be more vulnerable to nostalgia than I'd hoped. Something I'll need to keep in mind.

Instead I'm thinking of that gulf of time between then and now, how much has happened and yet how clearly I still remember nodding along to j9461701 and BarnabyCajones, engrossed in mcjunker's stories, or bemusedly seething at darwin2500 and HlynkaCG.

Bring back TrannyPornO!

You can still follow him on Twitter and read his Substack.

Cremieux is TrannyPornO?! How was I so OOTL on this one?!

This adds to the dark humor of Cremieux’s pitbull arc.

Now I feel out of the loop. Did TPO hate pit bulls?

He was fairly recently attacked and bitten on the face by a pit bull, and has since been engaged in an anti-pitbull crusade.

Don't know—the dark humor from my perspective was that:

  • Cremieux, recently famous HBD internet personality who I get occasional glimpses of from crimethink corners of the internet such as The Motte, suddenly started rageposting 6/66 pitbull hatefacts after he got attacked, when previously he had not shown any interest toward The Pitbull Question (to my knowledge)

  • It turns out, from @erwgv3g34's comment, that I'd been reading Cremieux way before in the form of TrannyPornO (who I also do not recollect having any opinion toward pitbulls one way or another)

It's more absurdist than some particular punchline. I would not wish a pitbull attack on anyone, much less an internet personality that I have a fond recollection of.

Dang are all of the best poasters just graduates from the rationalist / SSC blogsphere? Seems to be that way.

We are going to post a representative sample of comments from the first ever thread and evaluate their accuracy of course.

Well, whatever we're doing I look forward to all the photos from 2016. To some of us that feels like yesterday.

Nonsense: 2016 is THE FUTURE! Time stopped in 2015, as far as I'm concerned.

It's too bad it's been already 15 years since the 80s ended and music died.

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