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hydroacetylene
1d ago
How much of the improved standards of care are, specifically, about giving the very aged and terminally ill just two more weeks?
I didn't have you pegged that way based on some of your other posts, but I suppose it does fit.
That's actually my big issue with the MBTI: Thinking and Feeling aren't so alien to each other. I could probably be equally described by the INFP functions, making decisions based on values, following what's right, working on refining values, trying to take others' perspectives into consideration. I do both. But I'm distrustful of my 'gut,' and I want to expose it to logical argumentation to see if what I'm doing is actually in accordance with the logical way to pursue my values and preferences. I'm a big believer in cooperation, but because I believe it is logical.
I also have a strong romantic identity, which does somehow slot in to that frame. But by far the most important thing in a relationship to me is that I can explore ideas with my partner -- my girlfriend met me because I gave a lecture about history and she felt, according to her recollection, that "this is the kind of man I need in my life!" 100% of my partners have either identified with the Tumblr phrase "sapiosexual" or could fairly be described with it. That's not to say I'm not affectionate in a traditional sense, because I have also been described as romantic, but for me a relationship needs both aspects. For me, my idea of an amazing date is a discussion about the concept of justice over dinner and a reflection on the future of commerce as pillow talk.
That's also a problem with the MBTI -- it doesn't have anywhere to put the logician who's also a hopeless romantic!
But it's rather foreign to me, because logic to me is a tool, it's not where I live.
I think in words. Have you ever used Spreeder? I hardly know her! That's what my mental imagery often looks like; words scrolling through my head against a black background. I often feel punctuation, when I wrote "feel" just then I felt kind of like I needed to lean, and when I write a full-stop period, I feel like I need to jolt forward like a typewriter. (*jolt*)
Basically 85-90% of my internal experience is me thinking about what I would write in an essay or say in a lecture about my experiences or whatever I'm thinking about; for instance, today, I was thinking about how the prisoner's dillema applies to dating and the kind of argument I would make for cooperation in a world where so many people feel like defecting. I don't necessarily think in syllogisms, but I do think in logical, well-flowing arguments. So what people read on the motte is extremely close to just what I'm doing in my head most of the time. That's why my motte posts are often so long. This, right now, is literally my stream-of-consciousness.
I have "absent-minded professor" vibes, and I frequently make wrong turns when driving because I was thinking about personality theory instead of navigating. Fortunately my cerabellum is pretty good at keeping my foot on the brake when it needs to be.
I also like listening music to crowd out distractions so I can get into my flow of words, and sometimes I pace while thinking to also occupy my body and 'get it out of the way.'
Do you actually not experience your mind as a buzz of images and sounds by default?
Well, maybe not unless you count the sound of my own voice, or music. I don't experience many mental images, and I find fiction hard to read if it has a lot of description, because my imagination can't keep up with the imagery they're trying to get me to experience. I prefer dialogue.
My internal conscious experience is highly verbal, and I've occasionally found myself thinking about a phrase so intensely that I say it out loud accidentially. My chief mode of internal experience is to imagine that either I'm doing what I am now -- and writing something -- or to imagine myself with my partner, or in front of a crowd of people, explaining to them what I'm thinking. When I was in school I often imagined giving a class presentation on whatever was interesting me at the moment.
I hate smalltalk, but I love public speaking, because to me it's like writing an essay out loud, and with more opportunity for humor.
It's quiet and "logical" up there?
It's logical, but not necessarily quiet. Like I intimated, the logical processing I go through has to compete with the anxiety feelings that often try to crowd it out -- tightness in the chest, lightheadedness, shaking, impending sense of doom. I guess you could maybe think of the logical thinking as a way to compensate for the fact that my emotional experience is so intense and unreliable.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
It's a core right/left political distinction whether 'people like me' means people like me or people in my shoes.
Is it fundamentally about class consciousness? About religion, ethnicity, geography, and family?
In the USA the rightist party is leftist, for making class based appeals. The leftist party is rightist, for making ethnic appeals.
theincompetencetheorist
1d ago
Why did it take 20 years for Reddit to turn a profit? Looking at another heavily moderated forum in the past Twitter! How often did it turn a profit? Why did these companies keep on getting funding at ridiculous valuations? Maybe it is a way of doing sentiment engineering at scale through various behavior modification tricks with Likes, upvotes, retweets. Maybe that was the purpose? Not turn a profit but to modify behavior to do social engineering, maybe that is more valuable to the owners?
DaseindustriesLtd
late version of a small language model
1d ago
Instead, current research strongly suggests that LLMs are primarily pattern-recognition systems that infer regularities purely from text statistics rather than internally representing the world in a structured, grounded way.
…do you imagine that cause-effect relationships do not constitute a “regularity” or a “pattern”?
ThisIsSin
Liberty has an anti-privilege bias
1d ago
incels
This is just a fancy way to say "dissident" when it comes from the mouths of the orthodox (who believe they are dissidents axiomatically).
and into Asian women
There's a stereotype that Asian cultures tend to encourage women to have a healthier relationship with what men want, and men who are not getting what they want right now are more aware of that. When the orthodox say that, though, it's mostly to attack Asian women for being pick-mes (orthodoxy defines itself in opposition to everything men might want, so their existence lessens their power).
FtSoA
1d ago
Ok, but Skyrim is an immersive open-world game with a narrative and all that.
Most phone games are way worse on the metric of gamification! It's like slot machines--they just skip straight to the dopamine.
Plenty of people just play games like Skyrim or Red Dead or GTA as a way to pass the time, long after they've beaten them. I'd argue they'd be better off if they found it less relaxing.
A lot of shooters are just fun because it's fun to shoot endless hordes of zombies or whathaveyou.
Don't some people love to just play poker on Red Dead?
Personally, my perfectionism gets triggered a bit too much with a game like Fallout and so I can't even just enjoy it because I have to keep checking the damn guides to make sure I hit all the things. So I started Fallout 4, but barely did anything. (I really like Fallout New Vegas years ago.)
I barely even game anymore and haven't for the better part of a decade now. My dopamine circuits are apparently satisfied with arguing on the internet. (I can and do still read full books just fine though. Never understood that issue.)
Hereditary landowners love love LOVE bringing in exploitable labor from foreign ethnic groups. I can understand why right wing parties are opposed to immigrants. I can't understand why right wing parties aren't opposed to the farming and industrial interests responsible for encouraging their entrance in the first place. If they actually want to stop immigration, they need to eliminate the pull factors. Criminalise paying illegal immigrants. Criminalize accepting non-money payments from illegal immigrants. Lock up the suburbanites using maid services, and the factory and agrobusiness owners, and pretty soon illegal immigrants don't have a reason to stay in america. Even if they're feloniously on welfare... Healthcare, food, education, and housing is still cheaper back home.
Oh well. I like immigration so I guess this works out in my favor.
hydroacetylene
1d ago
I think a big part of this perception is that the bottom 80% were invisible in the past. I'm not saying these people's behavior has changes, I'm saying the median person in 1990 wasn't putting in much self-study effort to learn Spanish either. It's just that this person's behavior, habits, and life is invisible before social media and smartphones, unless he's in the army or some other unusually well-documented lifestyle- which is probably documented because it's unusually regimented, not because it's average.
I think, sure, there might be legitimate criticisms of smartphones- almost assuredly, there really are- but a lot of what gets blamed at them is very much not new. It's simply visible. Bush era Alex wasn't making much progress on communicating with his girlfriend's family(and Hispanics love it when gringos try to speak Spanish and are usually eager to help). He was just able to politely lie about it in a way nobody could call out.
It seems like this 'polite, public facing fiction' is the victim of social media and smartphones. How much of the recent decline narrative is driven by the destruction of these little white lies by instagramming everywhere?
erwgv3g34
1d ago
That's G Gundam. I hated it, personally, since my whole attraction to Gundam is the real robot aspect, but if you want battle shonen meets mecha, I guess it is the perfect show.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
1d ago
The first episode (and the first arc) of Jojo are really far from what people usually like about it.
The exact same thing that happened with Fate. It turns out that people give you their money if you keep re-imagining the Pacific War in space with giant robots, so when Philip J. Otaku says "Shut up and take my money!", the market responds by supplying as much Gundam as can be sold.
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
1d ago
Which is the one with the national stereotype gundams, ie mexico gundam with the sombrero?
faul_sname
Fuck around once, find out once. Do it again, now it's science.
1d ago
More than zero rationalists are extroverted. Not gonna dispute the NT part of that though.
ThisIsSin
Liberty has an anti-privilege bias
1d ago
but it does assign normative responsibility based on the practices of nations
No it doesn't, and that's actually kind of the central issue: it conveniently leaves out any redress for another country fighting a war against such a nation. International law, or rather those states who appeal to it, are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
The Hamasi/Palestinians are breaking international law on this matter because it's the only possible way to prosecute this war- that's why they put their command structure in schools and hospitals, too. In a fight that complies with that law, they instantly lose, and they know that.
However, intentionally ignoring the provisions of international law must (in a system whose default state is anarchy) then also come with a withdrawal of the protection other international laws provide (and no other aid should come from the international community that is protected by those laws until they bring themselves into compliance).
Laws against genocide (and other related mistreatment of ostensibly-civilian populations) are meant specifically to protect peoples who follow the laws of war and lose from being completely obliterated in contrast to the otherwise-natural punishment for the crime of waging war and losing. If a people fails to follow those laws, intentionally (regardless of whether or not they have a choice), then the only redress available to the nation that people are at war with is the consensus that the laws that would otherwise protect them no longer apply.
Erasing the Hamasi from the face of the Earth is a legitimate act of war in the state of nature in which the Hamasi have collectively agreed to exist. If a Palestinian faction manifests to fight a civil war against the Hamasi we should aid them, but until that happens, that is all we should do.
GBRK
1d ago
This is actually extremely easy to do, it's European-descended
That's a retrospective categorization that people living in those historical eras might have accepted as descriptive, but wouldn't have felt was particularly accurate. Imagine if someone from 2060 zapped in and started talking about the importance of being a microsoft windows culture and how the decline of america was due to ios and android destroying traditional microsoft-linux values. Even if their argument convinced you, you still probably wouldn't see your OS affiliation as being central to your identity, and you still wouldn't be convinced to create systems of mutual support and intermarriage within your OS denomination.
But what do I know. Maybe you're an Arch Linux user.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
1d ago
I must say, most holes that are big and creepy don't leave you bleeding out of your anus. That is at least +5000 creep points, in every sense of the word.
Most of the "unpleasant anime degeneracy" is, in my view, instrumental, not incidental. The juxtaposition of childlike innocence and body horror is the engine of the show's aesthetic effect. It's designed to create maximum cognitive dissonance. It's a story about the absolute, uncompromising brutality of a natural system that has no regard for human values like "fairness" or "pity." The suffering of children is used because it's the most effective means to maximize the audience's sense of injustice against an indifferent system. If you find the mechanism distasteful, that's a valid reaction, but to me it's the core of what makes the show function so effectively. I don't think it would have hit nearly as hard if it was Hitler and Stalin going on a buddy cop adventure into hell.
So much better than everything else on your list I honestly have no idea
Mob Psycho 100 is, by all accounts, a well-executed character piece about self-acceptance and emotional growth. It is narratively and thematically safe. Its central message is "it's okay to be yourself" and "your friends can help you." These are pro-social, therapeutic platitudes. It is, essentially, My First Therapy Session: The Anime. My preference is for stories that are thematically unsafe. Madoka is a brutal examination of utilitarian ethics and the horror of information asymmetry. Made in Abyss is about the collision of human aspiration with a universe of crushing indifference. Attack on Titan is a multi-generational study of the feedback loop between fear, violence, and ideology. One Punch Man (S1) is an exploration of existential ennui in the face of solved problems.
These shows take a high-concept premise and follow its logical implications to uncomfortable, often horrifying, conclusions. They are exercises in systems-thinking applied to narrative. Mob Psycho uses its high-concept premise (god-tier psychic powers) as a vehicle to deliver a fairly standard, low-stakes emotional journey. Mob's internal conflicts are profound to him, but the show's philosophical stakes are puddle-deep compared to the others.
(are all of these reviews based on single seasons or entire series?)
I tried to specifically note where I simply got fed up with a particular show, or got distracted (which is often not the fault of the show itself, particularly for Vinland Saga). I think I finished the first season of MP100 before deciding to venture elsewhere.
MaiqTheTrue
Renrijra Krin
1d ago
I mean the gamification scheme works mostly by overstimulation of the part of your brain that gets a ping from being successful. You get a dopamine high from achievement which is how your brain evolved to get unpleasant or difficult tasks done. That doesn’t mean you enjoy the game or got anything valuable from it, it means that the game used sounds and visual displays to trigger the dopamine that comes from accomplishing a task, but in a much more stimulating way. I’d put it this way — if games didn’t have those gamification elements in them, would you still enjoy them? I used to like Skyrim and it was always somewhat a thrill when you saw a hidden door open or quest completed or level up messages appeared. But what if none of that happened? How much fun is it really to solve random puzzles without the reward attached? No loot, no completion, no NPCs blowing sunshine up your ass, just turn the statues around to solve the puzzle with nothing to reward you? Just thwack the bandits for no pats on the head, no loot, no hidden rooms to discover? Is that really fun. Or is the fun getting those little bits of dopamine from the feeling of having done those things?
Primaprimaprima
...something all admit only "TRUMP", and the Trump Administration, can do.
1d ago
I’m definitely the sort of person whose most conscious experience is thinking through things like I’m making a logical argument, pulling in information from the environment to try and enhance that logic, and then dragging my feelings along.
That's really interesting! I didn't have you pegged that way based on some of your other posts, but I suppose it does fit.
The idea that someone could experience "logical argumentation" as their default mode of conscious experience is definitely very interesting to me. I mean I understand intellectually that there's no reason why that couldn't be the case, and I know that there are many people who would report that they think this way. But it's rather foreign to me, because logic to me is a tool, it's not where I live. The urge to typical-mind is so strong, so when people report to me that this is how they are by default, I always have a little urge to ask... really? Do you actually not experience your mind as a buzz of images and sounds by default? It's quiet and "logical" up there? Really?
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
1d ago
Thank you. But Jesus Christ, I really want to know how this particular state of affairs arose. I feel like I'd get a more canonical answer if I earnestly asked what is current Marxist canon.
PokerPirate
1d ago
I honestly like rotation schemes like this. There's a reason the military (in basically every developed country) does this. It prevents all sorts of corruption, promotes loyalty to the broader organization over narrow silos within the organization, and develops a generalized competence.
It might be implemented poorly in the UK, but that's not a reason to dislike the organizational system in principle.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
1d ago
I agree. My point is that I'm (probably) less acerbic than Dase, and usually trying to set a higher standard by virtue of the shame of doing otherwise while being a moderator. The fact that I'm incredibly ticked off is at least some evidence in favor of going easy on Dase. Does he warrant a formal warning? I will begrudgingly say yes. You didn't ban him after all. I just want my dissatisfaction taken into consideration.
A model 3 might be a finer car than a 70 muscle car but the reason the picture of the teen with the muscle car looks richer is that he is. The 1970 teen can buy a brand new V-8 (not the base model) Camero after about 1800 hours at the 1970 minimum wage. Today's teen needs 2500 hours to buy a base model 3 (after the tax credit expires next month) at the median teen wage of 17/hr.
It looks like a rich society because it was a rich society. Further the 1970 teens future house and college look much much better.
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