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problem_redditor
12hr ago
Market socialists love to say this, but it's wrong. No amount of increase in compute power can solve the Economic Calculation Problem, because it's not inherently about compute power but about how computers can't read minds.
The economic calculation problem is worse than even that. It's not just that a planner cannot properly figure out how much of each good to produce without price information (though I have had communist-sympathetic individuals unironically tell me that the solution might just be to conduct a whole lot of opinion polling, I am not kidding), it's also that a planner cannot estimate the most efficient method of production for any given good since there is no meaningful measure of profit under a centrally planned economy. As Mises puts it:
"The director wants to build a house. Now there are many methods that can be resorted to. Each of them offers, from the point of view of the director, certain advantages and disadvantages with regard to the utilization of future building, and results in a different duration of the building’s serviceableness; each of them requires other expenditures of building materials and labor and absorbs other periods of production. Which method should the director choose? He cannot reduce to a common denominator the items of various materials and various kinds of labor to be expended. Therefore he cannot compare them. He cannot attack either to the waiting time (period of production) or to the duration of serviceableness, a definite numerical expression. In short, he cannot, in comparing costs to be expended and gains to be earned, resort to any arithmetical operation. The plans of his architects enumerate a vast multiplicity of various items in kind: they refer to the physical and chemical qualities of various items in kind; they refer to the physical productivity of various machines, tools, and procedures. But all their statements remain unrelated to each other. There is no means of establishing any connection between them."
This is damning, since even if the mind of a planner were miraculously endowed with complete and accurate knowledge of the quantities and qualities of the available factors of production, of the latest techniques for combining and transforming these factors into consumer goods, and of the set of all individuals’ value rankings of consumer goods, the economic calculation problem still exists. Without market prices that could be used to determine the profitability of a project, one would still be unable to determine if a given plan for production of goods was optimal, and in fact would never be able to assess that even if the plan was horrifically and destructively uneconomic.
IGI-111
God was a dream of good government.
12hr ago
IGI-111
God was a dream of good government.
12hr ago
All behavior springs from a biological source ultimately. So I don't see this as a productive distinction.
Epithumia and Logos, which are the more characteristic motivators of Liberalism are also quite natural. You will see humans express desire and self-interest without needing to be taught as such.
And indeed the sort of paternalist hero worship that you describe features prominently in the history of most political ideologies, Liberalism included. Italians will be quite familiar with Garibaldi for instance.
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
12hr ago
We love you though.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
13hr ago
Does anyone here know their Myers-Briggs type or ever tried to figure it out?
Ok yes I know it's pseudoscience, I know it's not much better than a horoscope
Is it actually any worse than mainstream psychology?
orthoxerox
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13hr ago
Nope, low-rise pants and skimpy tops. If it's a tshirt, it now hugs the body again. No more elder Zoomer bagginess.
The jury was perfectly entitled to conclude that a non-negligent driver (1) would have stopped at the yellow light rather than trying to get through it or (2) would have tried to avoid hitting Christopher by braking rather than by swerving without braking.
Entering an intersection on a yellow light is legal (in this state). But failing to brake when you have a yellow light and someone else illegally runs a red light in front of you may count as negligence.
Also, in this case, Russell specifically admitted that he didn't even consider whether he could safely stop at the yellow light.
Muninn
"Dick Laurent is dead."
13hr ago
INTJ, every damn time. I found the whole bit about extroverted sensing being my inferior function quite interesting, as it explained a few of my RW peccadilloes like driving fun cars.
benmmurphy
13hr ago
Tim Walz was criticised for acting in effeminate ways. Not physically being a woman but acting like a woman.
orthoxerox
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13hr ago
I've reviewed a few of these in older FFTs as well, but I think I didn't say anything about NGE. My honest opinion is that watching it is one of these things you have to do at the right developmental step.
If you are the same age as the protagonists and you've just recently learned self-reflection and furiously reflect every day in the shower and in your own bed, NGE fucking blows your mind. It's literally the pinnacle of "I'm 13 and this is deep", it resonates with you.
Mihow
Lipstick on a guitar
13hr ago
That’s insane.
I’m always going on yellow. On an incredibly rare occasion the light turns red exactly as I head into the intersection.
This is perfectly logical and I assumed legal.
It’s either go on yellow or slam my brakes.
"is obligated to exercise reasonable care, which includes making reasonable observations for traffic traveling on an intersecting street".
That makes zero sense. Unless you’re literally running the red light - short of slamming your brakes so hard that you’re burning rubber, this doesn’t make sense.
Primaprimaprima
...something all admit only "TRUMP", and the Trump Administration, can do.
13hr ago
Does anyone here know their Myers-Briggs type or ever tried to figure it out?
Ok yes I know it's pseudoscience, I know it's not much better than a horoscope, but it's the fun thread gimme a break. If we can talk about tarot we can talk about MBTI. (MBTI at least is willing to talk about the weaknesses and negative aspects of different personality types, which makes it a little better than a horoscope.)
I think I'm an INFx (never quite sure on the last letter). Or at least an INxx. Probably most people who enjoy long internet arguments are an INxx of some kind.
Most people think you're supposed to just mix and match the four letters (decide if you're an introvert or extrovert for I or E, thinker or feeler for T or F, etc) but actually what it's really "about" is the "cognitive function stack", the cognitive tools that you use to process information and make decisions. The four letter personality type is just a code for a specific function stack. So for the INTP for example, their functions (from most dominant to least dominant) are Ti Ne Si Fe - introverted thinking, extroverted intuition, introverted sensing, and extroverted feeling. The "introverted" functions are more private, more about determining the texture of your inner experience, more about how you generate thoughts and ideas internally, and the "extroverted" functions are how you interface with the outside world, those are the aspects of your experience that you want to share around and make public, you're more likely to want to know how other people are experiencing that same function, etc.
If nothing else, I think the idea of different individual aspects of your cognition being introverted or extroverted, rather than introversion/extroversion being a single trait, is interesting and may have some use.
coffee_enjoyer
☕️
13hr ago
By “biological” I don’t mean race alone: the biological instinct to secure and favor one’s territory without regard for any potential benefit of internationalism; a leader who is strong, militant and paternal, occupying the same role as a leader in a primitive human group or warband; paternal regard for citizens; distrust of foreigners and saving the worst hatred for foreigners who meddle in your territory; importance of allegiance to a single leader; importance of tradition; shaming individualism; increasing pride through deeds specifically for the group (as opposed to say, getting a job in finance). These spring up from a biological source; non-fascist societies actually need to train people to feel otherwise. An untrained boy will always like the strong, militant, paternal superhero; he makes exclusive “hide-outs” in the woods with his own friend group and would be upset if another group of boys encroached; he imitates his father’s ways; etc. You could see these features in many prehistoric societies.
Primaprimaprima
...something all admit only "TRUMP", and the Trump Administration, can do.
13hr ago
I thought baggy masculine clothes were the style for zoomer girls? (I know of a couple irl examples.)
Could be a regional or Blue/Red thing.
sun_the_second
could survive a COD lobby and a gay furry discord server
13hr ago
The weather's probably part of the reason. At the moment, I'd probably go out into the street in only my underwear too if it was socially acceptable.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
13hr ago
It frankly boggles my imagination how skimpy the clothing is around these parts, given how cold it can get. Even more so in Manchester, where every wo-man seeks to expose as much of their chest as feasible. Not that I'm complaining, especially not when I need motivation to go the gym.
orthoxerox
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13hr ago
Friday hornyposting thread.
I went to the friendly local mall yesterday to buy a bucket hat for my trip to the mountains and it looks like the fashion went full circle. Girls in their late teens now dress like they dressed when I was their age in the early 00's. I couldn't help myself and eyefucked every single one of them as I was walking from shop to shop.
Maybe all these men that suddenly married a much younger woman are victims of cyclical fashion?
FiveHourMarathon
Wawa Nationalist
13hr ago
Jews are widely treated as a kind of endangered species.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
13hr ago
I would be the first to acknowledge that this is a serious risk. You don't want AI becoming entirely autonomous/independent and then outcompeting mankind even if it's not actively malevolent. Being disenfranchised and having the rest of the light cone being snatched out from under our noses would suck, even if we didn't die in the process.
The ideal outcome, as far as I'm concerned, would the opposite of the evil genie in a lamp. In other words, a preternaturally powerful yet benevolent being that has your best interests at heart, and seeks to fulfill your desires instead of twisting them, and also takes orders from you. That is an aspirational goal, but not one that's literally impossible when we're making them from scratch.
The possibility space is large:
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A monopolar scenario, where the AI is malevolent. We all die.
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Multipolar regime of competing AI that are all misaligned. We almost certainly die.
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Monopolar hegemonizing AI that is controlled by human(s), but said humans aren't particularly concerned with the rest of us. We may or may not die, but I wouldn't be happy.
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Everything in between
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(Everything outside)
Corvos
13hr ago
That’s interesting, I didn’t know. Thanks :) All ancient history now but an interesting case.
2rafa
13hr ago
Certainly there are Christian trads who don’t see it that way, but in Israel it’s part of the secular vs conservative culture war where religious conservatives complain about Christmas trees and tinsel at shopping malls and in other public spaces.
self_made_human
Grippy socks, grippy box
13hr ago
I hate you guys so much -_-
2rafa
13hr ago
It’s possible, but it seems unlikely that one of the probably first few hundred medically transitioned people ever (maybe even the first hundred; there were a couple pre-war, a handful postwar, and then a trickle in the 1960s and 1970s) happened to hide it in an elaborate conspiracy and then became First Lady of France.
Southkraut
The rain fell gentlier.
14hr ago
We have some degree of redistribution in most countries today, for people who for noble or ignoble reasons, can't work on the free market. Eventually, that will be everyone.
Yes, because those people are still made of almost the same stuff as productive people, and are the relatives and friends of productive people, and for reasons of simplicity and history have the same rights as productive people. All of that goes out the window when there are no more productive people. When there is one polity in which AI is the sole producer of value and unproductive humans have value redistributed to them, and another polity in which AI is the sole producer of value and humans are not a factor, then which of the two will perform better?
The reason that this is mocksble is that the leftist fantasy is mostly: everybody else will work for me and I can do nothing, and the rightist fantasy is: I will be able to do as much work as I want to.
Yes stupidity exists inside of both of these, but they’re not equivalents.
“I will be a warlord” is a very different type of fantasy than “I will be a poet”. Both fantasies, both silly, but silly in different ways.
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