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BurdensomeCount
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3hr ago
Interesting. From my neighbours and coworkers the only people even looking at ICE cars these days are petrolheads who like the vroom vroom. If you're not one of those in my circles if you're buying a new car nobody even considers anything not electric. Used cars sure people still care about petrol models but that too is a declining portion.
FiveHourMarathon
Wawa Nationalist
3hr ago
I'm right where the northeast boswash megalopolis gives way to farm country, the last highway exit on the east coast. Twenty minutes east I'm at a small city LGBT center, twenty minutes west I'm at an Amish farm stand.
RenOS
something is wrong
3hr ago
Ha. Me and my wife are one of the few people in our circle of acquantainces who don't own a car, and quite a few of them (themselves owning cars!) instantly started treating us like green compatriots. Led to a few awkward moments when they became aware that we're not only doing it out of money concerns (work, daycare and shopping is all easily reachable by bike in less than 10 minutes for us, and we don't travel that much) but that we are ideologically most aligned with pragmatist center-libertarian views. And that's despite hiding our power levels.
CrispyFriedBarnacles
3hr ago
Oh, totally. But I think I'm trying to get at something slightly different. To go with a slightly strained metaphor...
It's more like George W. Bush was a basketball team, everyone knew it and knew that the communal sport seemed to be basketball, and so the Democrats trained to play and beat a basketball team. And they arguably got really good at violating the spirit of basketball while staying in the letter of the rules of basketball (or so it seemed, if you were not sympathetic to Democrats).
And then they show up to play basketball, and Trump is there, announcing that the actual sport is boxing. And the refs angrily shake their heads no - we play basketball here! - and then Trump cheerfully gives them the finger and sells ticket to the upcoming boxing match, a giant crowd shows up for the boxing match, the crowd gets rowdy and ignores the refs, and then the refs shrug and the boxing match starts.
I think that's roughly what I'm getting at. Democrats couch it in moral language, but as you well note, it's extremely difficult to see how Trump (especially earlier Trump) was morally worse that Iraq War era George W. Bush. But it is easy to see that Democrats really liked the social, cultural terms of debate they had against the Mitt Romneys of the world, and they really don't like the terms of debate they have against Trump.
sun_the_second
3hr ago
I gotta say, knowing the context doesn't make this look much less like 3am drunk philosophy.
WandererintheWilderness
3hr ago
The trans advocacy community works really hard to insist that gender isn't a sex thing, but I think that is ultimately just empirically false. Your brain does not contain separate wiring for sex and gender
How, then, do you explain the existence of large numbers of asexual trans people? (I mean, you could argue it's still a particular configuration of a single "sex-and-gender" neural knot in the brain, rather than two unrelated phenomena. But when people say "trans isn't a sex thing" they mean "it isn't a kink pursued for sexual gratification". Brain wiring isn't really the point.)
Weird, I realize we're playing dueling anecdotes but I can't remember a single person I know talking about the environmental aspects of their Tesla.
Where are you from, roughly?
Europe can be very weird about this sort of stuff. My wife got an e-bike figuring it'll be a bit healthier to get off her ass, even if assisted by electricity, and the whole office was oohing and aahing over her "social awareness" for weeks.
belied by the number of cybertrucks on the road.
Oh, must be America, I think they're illegal here.
How confident are you that you're not falling into a typical mind trap?
Pretty confident, because I'm not asserting something about my own experiences as any kind of baseline. I'm making a claim about the trustworthiness of internal claims for which there is overwhelming external counterevidence ("I feel like I really am a man" -> "This is not the body of a man").
~60% of transmen reported experiencing phantom penis sensations, when surveyed
This would be a more interesting result to me if scientists and society proceeded to then tell the other 40% of transmen "it would appear you are not actually trans." If "phantom penis sensations" are neither necessary nor sufficient to the definition of transsexuality in females, what's the difference? Trans identity is doubly vague, with both "gender" and "trans" subject to constant motte-and-baileying. To give a different example, if essentially all AIS-afflicted genetic males experienced serious gender dysphoria prior to receiving AIS diagnosis, that would weigh heavily, I think, in favor of the brain being "in tune" with sex and gender. But such results do not appear extant; AIS diagnosis often comes as a complete shock.
I disagree that it's more worthy of disbelief than any other internal experience.
Returning to this, then: I'm the one asserting that we should treat such claims the same as any other report of internal experience. You believe yourself to be Abraham Lincoln, or to be wolfkin, or to be talking to God? Okay, let's see some external evidence of that. Even our emotional states, which philosophers often treat as incorrigible and original, are often subjected to doubt: have you ever been told by someone, "I'm fine," when you could see on their face that they were definitely not "fine?" Psychology makes a nod to this in many diagnostic processes, look for words like "persistent" and "insistent" and "recurrent" in discussions of when to approve physician-assisted suicide, for example. See also: chronic pain! How can we know you are or are not hurting, when you come seeking drugs? "Internal experience" is very hard on medical practice! But we do at least somewhat insist on interrogating it in almost every context--in theory, even this one, though the weight of social pressure against that interrogation seems to only continue to grow.
Ultimately, I can think of ways you could, say, convince me that you're Abraham Lincoln, actually. But even if you walked me into your time machine and gave me a tour of history, it would be a goodly while into that tour before I accepted that I wasn't being fooled, somehow. Trans advocacy, meanwhile, seems entirely committed to the idea that proof is neither necessary nor sufficient for valid gender claims, even as they cherry-pick those studies which seem conveniently aligned. I have seen similarly cherry-picked studies proving the existence of miracles. In both cases, it's entirely possible that I'm wrong to doubt!
But I doubt it.
FiveHourMarathon
Wawa Nationalist
4hr ago
I think almost everyone has, but predicting that any [Person]-Trump alliance will fracture is like predicting that the sun will rise in the east. Trump is known for his tendency to fall out with prominent allies and advisers on a pretty regular basis.
FiveHourMarathon
Wawa Nationalist
4hr ago
Weird, I realize we're playing dueling anecdotes but I can't remember a single person I know talking about the environmental aspects of their Tesla. The comments they make generally included some mix of:
-- SEE HOW FUCKING FAST IT IS, 0-60 under 4 seconds, it has power instantly, etc...
-- I never have to get gas, sometimes justly limited to convenience but often with fuzzy math about costs
-- It's cool looking
-- It's an amazing feat of engineering
But never anything about the environment. Of course, I live in a much more rural area, so maybe people who live in more urban areas are making "excuses" for owning a car at all, where my compatriots are assuming that any functional middle class man must own a car? They might well have made the choice for environmental reasons privately and choose not to say so to me, but I know a lot of prius owners who talked about environmental reasons for their choices.
Certainly the idea that Tesla can only sell cars through left wing virtue signaling is belied by the number of cybertrucks on the road.
VoxelVexillologist
Multidimensional Radical Centrist
4hr ago
"Big Beautiful Bill"
Does anyone know why they named it to have the same acronym as Biden's "Build Back Better" plan? It feels like a deliberate choice, but I'm not sure why.
I know Musk has in the past been accused of tweeting keywords in other contexts to maybe confuse search terms, but I can't think of any good other reasons.
I get the sense that Democrats really, really, really wish they could just run against 2006 era George W Bush again, or Mitt Romney.
I mean, people just explicitly say this. Even with a sense of humor
They frame it as Trump being particularly awful but W was called a war criminal who killed hundreds of thousands for years, hard to say that 2016 - especially early - Trump was worse by any utilitarian calculus. It isn't just that Trump is loathsome, it's that it doesn't seem to stick. People giggle along way too much.
My roommates got a mining rig in college and, in hindsight, it's great for my FOMO because it made it clear I obviously would have done what they did and sold BTC off long before the peaks.
FtttG
5hr ago
I can't comment on brain scan interpretations, but there's a fair amount of evidence there's something neurological going on.
At least one of these much-touted studies was hopelessly confounded by the fact that it was examining the brains of deceased trans women postmortem, all of whom had been on HRT for years if not decades prior to their deaths. Ergo, impossible to determine if genetics or hormones was the cause of their atypical brain structures (if indeed they had them, given that the study in question failed to replicate).
FistfullOfCrows
5hr ago
These cases have always existed, merely manifesting in different behaviors according to the current dominant memeplexes. It's entirely possible to have your brain affected differently by the hormone mixture in the womb. This would then predispose you to an altered behavior, but as with all things, our biology and behavior aren't binary things, and how we react to internal sensations and perceived bodily norms is highly culturally dependent.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
5hr ago
and some cities (London, Paris, I assume others) explicitly discourage or even disallow non-EVs from certain areas.
I've lived in cities with emission norms, and even diesels are allowed in as long as they're relatively new. London and Paris might have gone literally zero emission, though I've never had to drive in either so can't confirm, and they'd be an exception.
Subsidies don't seem to be enough to sway any normie I've met, and the type of person I've met that has an EV still very much fits into the profile we were discussing with Southkraut.
AugustDeRosa
5hr ago
That makes sense and in itself reflects a much larger problem: often, policies regarding EV mandates are made with urban areas in mind, where the infrastructure is in the process of being entirely revamped to suit them at the expense of ICE vehicles, whereas once you drive five minutes outside the capital, you can't find a charger, you can't find an EV dealer, and your income drops below the required amount to purchase one in the first place.
Even though my preference is towards EVs for a multitude of reasons, if I lived rural there's no chance in hell I'd use one. Getting off-topic here but it's one of the major reasons I feel EVs have found less uptake in the USA, Canada, and Australia when compared to Europe, which then gets retrofitted to more sensationalist cultural/political lines.
Southkraut
Vibe of vibes, saith the Preacher, vibe of vibes; all is vibe.
6hr ago
Fair points. I live in the countryside, so urban concerns are somewhat invisible to me.
Firstly the choice to want an EV in the first place is purely virtue signalling - nobody I know ever justified it with anything other than highfalutin saving-the-planet rethoric
This could very well be true in the US, but at least in Western Europe, governments subsidise the hell out of EVs through either direct subsidies to the manufacturers and distributers or indirect tax subsidies, and some cities (London, Paris, I assume others) explicitly discourage or even disallow non-EVs from certain areas.
Because of this, if you are in Europe and are:
- A company purchasing a fleet of cars,
- An urban professional,
It's probably in your best interest financially to buy an EV, or at the very least a hybrid.
You could argue this is second-hand virtue signalling, but the end purchaser who will make the decision as to what they buy is probably thinking mostly of practicality. I currently drive a hybrid purely for financial reasons (and since having owned it, I am far more partial to EVs and would consider them in future), and most of the people I know who drive EVs do so either for tax purposes or because they live in an urban area.
And both of these purchasers would be particularly attuned to the inverse-virtue-signalling presently associated with purchasing a Tesla (e.g. I am aware of a European company that has this year taken every Tesla off of its 'approved vehicles' list for company cars, and when pressed on why, they said they didn't want the brand "associated with any political direction"). This means that even if the initial purchase was primarily a financial decision rather than virtue signaling, you can still then be swayed by "Musk man bad".
benmmurphy
6hr ago
I have two datapoints about AI and programming recently.
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I asked it about an unknown PRNG function I've reverse engineered which I had previously tried googling to see if it was based on a standard function. It was able to find functions that were similar that I had not previously been able to find googling. I then asked it to come up with a known plaintext attack when part of the seed was known and it spat out something that looked correct.
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Another developer was looking at reverse engineering a function that was protected with a weak form of control flow obfuscation. The control flow obfuscation was just replacing function call instructions with a call to a shared global dispatch function that would end up calling the target function. The global dispatch function would execute approximately 200 instructions. There is an obvious attack against this obfuscation and it can be stripped off with ~100 lines of python in ghidra. They were using LLMs to try and investigate this function but didn't make much progress. But maybe with better prompting and allowing more access to tools it would have been possible for the LLM to make progress.
Absolutely this. Firstly the choice to want an EV in the first place is purely virtue signalling - nobody I know ever justified it with anything other than highfalutin saving-the-planet rethoric - and secondly the choice to not pick a Tesla might have been justified by practicality, but let's be frank: it isn't. What it is is "Musk man bad". EVs are like anything related to the whole "carbon is killing the planet" narrative and its associated Ablaßhandel (Indulgence/Pardon Industry) - 100% virtue signalling.
It's so very obvious that as far as I'm concerned, any claim to the contrary will need thorough justification. I'd have to contort myself into a pretzel of charity to pretend otherwise.
mrvanillasky
Indo Aryan Thot Leader
6hr ago
Which is fine, I am happy to change my mind, I just dont like schelling points that are hard to defend but at the same time will get outcasted. I know people irl who could have saved thier hair had they jumped on fin but now have the hair of a 70 year old thanks to friends who in good nature refused to let them take it as they were told by other bros about it online, even though my dermat is a guy who lifts and is a semi pro athlete/academic prodigy.
Its also an all consuming thing, seed oils/fin apparnely cause all health problems and therefore must be crusaded against, you are a shill if you say otherwise. Seems excessive.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
7hr ago
It has nothing to do with virtue signalling.
I don't know what to tell you man, from my neighbors to coworkers, it's a very specific type of person that even thinks of buying an EV.
MaiqTheTrue
Renrijra Krin
7hr ago
Most of these guys are alternative media and make their living at least partially from their online writing. As such, it’s not surprising that they’re adopting the opinions of their audience, at least publicly. If my audience is full of gymbros, I can’t keep them reading if I’m going against their long-standing belief that seed oils are poison. So I might choose to be silent, but it’s in my interests to let it be known that I think seed oils are bad.
Aren't you some London finance quant? The only way to get less representative of the average European from that is if you married into literal aristocracy.
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