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07mk
4hr ago
This seems like pretty standard euphemism treadmilling. As long as the core sense of considering men as being worthy of derision exists, it doesn't matter if the Dems call them "men," "dudes," or "florks." It's that core sense that needs to be changed if the Dems want to call men by a term that isn't derogatory.
WhiningCoil
Ghost of Quokka's Future
4hr ago
If it happens, I think the "origins" would date back to the Obama administration and his intelligence community framing Trump for crimes they knew he didn't commit to derail his administration. Virtually everything is downwind of that.
If I were to pick an inciting incident, I'm torn between the failed assassination attempt on Trump, and the successful assassination attempt on Kirk. Maybe you can't separate them, because with the attempt on Trump you could kind of trick yourself into thinking "Maybe this will stop, maybe we can go back to normal", and with the assassination of Charlie Kirk you knew beyond all doubt that was impossible. They're never going to stop.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
4hr ago
Hasn't been fired yet, but there's some obvious places where it might -- conflict between state law enforcement and Federal around immigration is one. Imagine the Portland judge's decision that Trump can't use the National Guard the way he wants stands. Antifa gets cocky and turns Portland into a riot zone again. Local law enforcement appears but essentially protects the rioters. Trump invokes the Insurrection Act (in the middle of the night of course) and sends in some National Guard unit arguably (but not definitely) in defiance of the judge's orders. Portland and Oregon declare this illegal and the staties try to stop them... there's your shot.
Alternatively, the decision DOESN'T stand. Trump uses the National Guard in more and more blue cities. Local law enforcement gets in a conflict with them, shots fired.
JarJarJedi
4hr ago
I, Asimov by, predictably, Isaac Asimov. Some biographies and especially auto-biographies bored me, but this one is not the case. The author clearly is writing about the subject he is deeply interested in, and is not hiding it at all (I'd even say flaunting it), and yet it remains an interesting book. Asimov being a pretty standard prosperous New York secular American Jew, with all cultural and political stances that follow from that, there are a lot of things for me to disagree with him about, but I think it's still a very illuminating and interesting book.
Also, Spice: The 16th-Century Contest that Shaped the Modern World - the topic is pretty obvious from the title. Not too much new there in general, but the details are fascinating. Those early explorers were really wild, and it's insane how dangerous and close to suicidal their exploits were.
AmericanSaxeCoburgGothic
Happy to be here! Goal is to post the most exclamation points.
4hr ago
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Is this a quote, or an anecdote?
Edited to remove unnecessary antagonism.
The_Nybbler
If you win the rat race you're still a rat. But you're also still a winner.
4hr ago
If so, it didn't work. "Dudes" is just as negative with the addition of dismissal-as-nonserious.
TK-421
4hr ago
Has the shot already been fired?
There seems to be an uptick in worst case scenario chatter, people imagining scenarios spiraling out of control until political violence increases up to the level of civil war.
Ignore whether any of these are likely. Assume a world where the US does descend into some sort of organized violence, the low end somewhere along the lines of the Balkans and the high end a slug-out like the Civil War.
When historians (and just assume historians exist, even if they're AI) look back will they identify something that's already happened as one of the primary inciting incidents? I don't think we've had a Fort Sumter but is John Brown's body already marching?
Alternatively - and again only under the pure assumption that it happens, no implication meant as to the probability - if you think it hasn't happened yet, roughly how long until it does?
UwU
5hr ago
The one theory that resonates with me is the left has used the word "men" in so much negative context that it is now stigmatic. So they needed some other synonym to denote benign men without the negative associations.
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
5hr ago
"A lot of people are now learning about sex from porn,” Anne says.
Femcel complains about having to have the kind of sex men want in order to maintain a relationship, blames other women who show off the goods for free for making men want that kind of sex.
Hear now from Uncle Tom Aunt Tammy about how showing off the goods destroys your ability to please a man.
More news at 11.
It's always just frigid women trying to make sex rarer so they get paid more (read: have better chances of landing a man, as demanded by their biology) for putting out less. It's the distaff counterpart of the incel "state-mandated GF" thing, and just as fundamentally selfish.
07mk
5hr ago
It's considered mandatory, because the woke worldview is totalizing and impenetrable. That is, it is always relevant to every single aspect of life (i.e. "everything is political," "the personal is political"), and it's hardened against traditional, conservative forms of modification for better conforming to truth and facts such as logic and evidence. Whether you learned of this yesterday or 2 decades ago, the fundamental Correctness of this belief doesn't change, nor does your responsibility as a member of someone on the Right Side of History to immanentize the eschaton by preaching to your significant other.
After that, it's basic market forces; the types of women you are talking about are high in demand, low in supply, so they get to set the terms of these relationships. At least, unless you fit into a category that's even higher in demand/lower in supply.
This feels like the right take. "How do you do, fellow kids white dudes?"
For all the talk about "permission structures" as a joke, I think the Democrats lack such a permission structure among themselves to talk to men, especially white men, qua men. The idea of such an affinity group seems anathema to them --- although to be honest I have no desire to join such a group, and they're not completely wrong that such affinity groups have done, uh, some bad stuff in the last couple centuries. "White dudes" seems about the least threatening way to identify them, but nobody asked how they feel about the label.
It might be easier to turn down the volume of the affinity group messaging altogether, rather than grapple about how to accept perceived "majority" affinity groups, but that would be a pretty big course change for the party. But I'll note this plan also flatters my personal "post-racial society" sensibilities from growing up in the 80s and 90s. Ultimately it feels like they've put a lot of effort into advertising what they aren't, but that's a set they seem to think includes me.
magic9mushroom
If you're going to downvote me, and nobody's already voiced your objection, please reply and tell me
5hr ago
Can we at least demand the left match Trump's behavior of condemning political violence before dunking on their political opponents?
I will note for the record that the Democratic Party's best equivalents to Trump did, in fact, match his behaviour in the Charlie Kirk instance.
Top-ranking Democrats also expressed their sadness and comdemnation for political violence.
Before the announcement of Kirk's death, former Vice President Kamala Harris wrote on X that she was "deeply disturbed by the shooting in Utah."
"Let me be clear: Political violence has no place in America. I condemn this act, and we all must work together to ensure this does not lead to more violence," Harris posted.
Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., the former House speaker, wrote on X: "The horrific shooting today at Utah Valley University is reprehensible. Political violence has absolutely no place in our nation."
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., wrote: "Political violence has no place in America. This shooting is horrifying."
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., posted on social media: "Political violence is NEVER acceptable."
Democratic California Gov. Gavin Newsom posted: “The attack on Charlie Kirk is disgusting, vile and reprehensible. In the United States of America, we must reject political violence in EVERY form.”
So that's their last presidential candidate, their ranking Congressmen, their probable next presidential candidate, and WP says Biden (their last President) condemned it too though I haven't found the source. Oh, and I remember seeing Bernie Sanders condemn it in the stream that got Destiny demonetised.
There are lots of people on "the left" who did not match this behaviour, of course (including the aforementioned Destiny), but the Democratic top brass did. A cynic would, of course, note that the top brass has a very personal motivation to want less political assassinations (i.e. they are very high on the target list and don't want to be assassinated). But, hey, that argument does apply to Trump as well.
Skulldrinker
5hr ago
Why is it considered mandatory to moralize about a cause they only found out about last week on a date? I'm not interested in talking to brainworms. Or in being verbally bludgeoned with emotionally-loaded words.
I don't want to hear about Jesus either.
RoyGBivensAction
Zensunni Scientologist
5hr ago
Get a biological woman to go on a date with me with a positive, collaborative attitude and not talk about Gaza.
In any college-educated/mostly Blue Tribe milieu, that last requirement is going to be a killer. A genuine Red Tribe setting (i.e. some churches) might be okay.
Skulldrinker
5hr ago
AoC is very much a wokescold.
gattsuru
5hr ago
Yep. I was gonna go with one of the casual exhibitionists to really nail down (hurr hurr) the disjunction, but most of them are either relatively apolitical or overtly lefties.
Drinniol
5hr ago
Well, one thing the democrats could do to better earn my vote is stop publicizing how they hate me and hold me in utter contempt but will pretend otherwise just long enough to get my vote.
In all these inside baseball articles it's never that dems hate white men that's the issue. The issue is merely that white men (ew) have picked up on it and (ugh) are still allowed to vote (gross). "And anyway, we need to figure out how to lie most effectively to convince those 'people' that we don't hate them."
I mean, even if they went full court press tomorrow, White Boy Fall, do they really think anyone would believe it? No amount of cauc worship will help if I know from your own fucking articles that you're completely disingenuous.
Skulldrinker
5hr ago
I occasionally wonder what exactly Team Blue could ever do to entice me to vote for them in a national election
Get a biological woman to go on a date with me with a positive, collaborative attitude and not talk about Gaza.
Skulldrinker
5hr ago
I still don't understand this past-tense attitude, but in the wild I mostly see young women socializing around gay men and trannies if they're interacting with anyone other than another young woman.
newport
5hr ago
I was over at my dads house today helping with some household chores. He lives in a very rural area of a very red state. At the end of the work we went to one of the nearby country bars. It’s the kind of place that farmers, truckers, legit cowboy boot wearers and the working class go to unwind with a cold one.
Vice President Harris was on the TV and the local gun store owner said to his auto mechanic (friends since high school),
“You know what? She ain’t so bad. The economy is recovering, nobody’s rioting, and we’re standing up on the world stage again. Can’t believe I’m saying this but Ol’ Oakland Kam’s got my vote this year.”
I looked around and all I saw were heads nodding in agreement. I heard a few calls of “Yes sir” and “Damn Straight” from the men around me. Even saw the lonely ball cap wearing farmer in the corner raise his drink with a nod.
Skulldrinker
5hr ago
The compassion is typically abstract and superficial.
magic9mushroom
If you're going to downvote me, and nobody's already voiced your objection, please reply and tell me
6hr ago
He said two bullets, not three (and said he'd assign them Gilbert/Gilbert).
Skulldrinker
6hr ago
The populists ARE the wokescolds. Most of the politically active base of the democrats loathe them for being neo-liberal/not-socialists.
I might be in a horrible filter bubble, but I encounter obnoxious leftists IRL several times a week and they seem pretty "popular"
MathWizard
Good things are good
6hr ago
Seems more like a soft R? Or no R. It's patronizing and disconnected but still offensive in a similar way that going up to a bunch of black guys and calling them "my nigga". Because that's what they call each other, right? Right? Probably maybe? Vote for me my niggas!
Is, uh... is that something you are looking for in life?
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