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the_Culture_is_great
6hr ago
You just...you don't do that! That's your skin! It's not a piece of paper!
Those aren't actual reasons.
Do you want to look like the kind of person who gets tattoos?!
This very much depends on what kind of people around you have tattoos, and what kind of tattoos they are.
Getting a Bible verse tattooed on a discreet part of your body seems like the most innocuous kind of tattoo you could get,
Only if everyone around you is Christian. In my circles having a tattoo is whatever, but a religious tattoo is trashy
istinetz
6hr ago
Tattoos are expensive and painful to get and permanent
Having children is expensive and painful and permanent. Does that mean that you consider having children to be antisocial/unaesthetic, by the same token?
2rafa
6hr ago
It doesn’t apply to them. It only applies to those who convert to (and in practice openly proselytize) another, in reality another Abrahamic, religion.
NullHypothesis
6hr ago
I agree with the general sentiment, yet I'm not sure how much room for nuance your argument with the other party had, since you haven't mentioned it.
Are all tattoos the same? Is a full body tattoo equivalent to a tiny flower on a wrist you could barely see? Perhaps you would consider all tattoos to be negative, but surely there would be varying levels of how much of a negative impact a tattoo could have on your perception of a person based on what that tattoo is and/or how large it is.
I find both sides taken to the extreme a bit absurd. If one were to think all tattoos are bad and/or reflect poorly on the person and all tattoos are superficial fashion choices - I would think someone defending either position would have to start granting exceptions or resorting to logical fallacies to maintain their position. It's possible neither side actually has this black and white position, but the post certainly gives off that impression.
Perhaps in your personal experience, every person you met with tattoos gives off the quality of the type of individual you don't want to associate with. While on the other hand, the person you were arguing with might have a lot of friends that have tattoos (or even have tattoos themselves), so they don't associate negativity with tattoos as much, if at all.
Personally, I think both sides of the argument you presented are pretty weak.
First and foremost, they're ugly and I don't like them
This does technically support your position of you personally finding tattoos distasteful but will do nothing to convince others of why they should find tattoos distasteful. Also, beauty is subjective. Is there not a single tattoo you could find any artistic quality in? If someone drew something that wasn't ugly on a piece of paper, what is it that makes it ugly once it's put on the human skin? You need to expand on this point.
Anyone who gets a tattoo is comfortable with associating themselves in this way
It's likely many younger people with tattoos aren't even considering that. Tattoos are becoming more common in the United States. This Pew survey from 2023 found 32% of Americans have a tattoo. That's 1/3 of Americans. 41% of people aged 18-29 and 46% of people aged 30-49 have at least one tattoo. That's a lot of people, and I highly doubt most of them are making the conscious decision that they are associating themselves with criminals or other undesirable groups. While there is still a social stigma with tattoos, it's largely gone now, at least amongst the newer generation.
Tattoos are expensive and painful to get and permanent
This doesn't seem to really support your argument in any way. Also, you can pay money to get tattoos removed. It's going to cost money and time but tattoos aren't as "permanent" as they used to be. You need to expand on this point more.
To me, it seems only your first two points seem to support why you dislike tattoos and only the 2nd point seems to support why tattoos should be considered distasteful.
Meanwhile, assuming you have summarized your opponent's position accurately and fairly, it does not address your points at all and takes on an easily disproven absurd position. Superficial fashion statement? As you pointed out, tattoos are expensive and time-consuming to get. Referring back to the Pew study from before, 69% of people who have a tattoo stated its purpose was to remember or honor someone or something and 47% to make a statement about something they believe in. That doesn't seem like superficial to me. Only 32% of people stated their tattoo was to improve their personal appearance, which would qualify as a superficial fashion statement. At best, your opponent's position would need to be mended to "some tattoos are superficial fashion statements."
Also, even if I did grant your opponent's position that tattoos are superficial fashion statements, there aren't any reasons provided to argue why it's wrong to judge people for superficial fashion statements. People make judgments based on superficial fashion statements all the time. Of course, your opponent isn't here and would likely be able to provide some reasons as to why that is wrong, but considering you didn't flesh out their argument, I'm just going to assume your conversation with them didn't progress much further.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to make on the spot judgments based on characteristics because you can't perform any actions without judgments, otherwise you're no different from a random number generating machine. At the same time, acknowledging that your judgments could be wrong, or being open to the possibility that your judgments are based on falsehoods, will make you a better person. I tend to find the "you can never judge someone based on x factor" crowd to usually be hypocrites that want to feel morally superior, but it doesn't mean their points are always without merit either.
What you should judge people by are the factors that are relevant for what you are judging them for.
gattsuru
6hr ago
It's pretty common for works to only get localized to the West if they're popular enough to have a manga version, or sometimes only after they've had a successful anime release. I'll point to Kino's Journey as a particularly extreme example: it went directly from light novel in 2000 to anime in Japan in 2003, you could find it in the US anime in English in 2005ish, but the manga didn't start until 2010 and for stupid licensing reasons only the first volume was ever officially translated in 2006, and it was nearly impossible to find.
SubstantialFrivolity
I'm not even supposed to be here today
6hr ago
Thanks, that helps a ton. It sounds like we don't really have anything directly comparable in the US, since our YA novels don't have illustrations (or they didn't back in the day, maybe they do now).
One notable feature of modern anime is that it often serves as essentially an advertisement for the manga or light novels rather than as a end in itself, so you get one or two cours and then nothing, because there is no point in promoting a print series that has already ended. C'est la vie.
Yeah I have seen series which don't bother to adapt the entirety of the source material, which can be frustrating when it leaves the story unfinished or rushes the ending. Maoyu was one I saw that was like that - good premise, fun characters, but it managed to feel both rushed and unfinished. My understanding is that the manga was better, but they didn't adapt the whole thing.
ToaKraka
Dislikes you
6hr ago
IIRC, a while ago I read a court opinion where a person was severely injured by a snowplow truck that slid through an intersection like that. (I unfortunately do not have the link on hand.)
SubstantialFrivolity
I'm not even supposed to be here today
6hr ago
I've been in a similar situation (though no accident thankfully), and like you it taught me the importance of discerning whether you can safely stop at the yellow. It was when I was still in Wisconsin, and like in your example the roads were icy. I tried to brake for the yellow far too late, but instead I just slid through the intersection. Thankfully there wasn't any cross traffic to hit me due to my mistake, though my passenger (my boss at the time) did scold me for trying to stop so late when I should've known it was unsafe to do that in winter.
MaiqTheTrue
Renrijra Krin
6hr ago
To be honest I don’t have a good answer for that. Obviously they need a country of their own, but I don’t think it can be in the Levant simply because the land area is too small (it’s the size of New Jersey) and the two sides have so little trust and so much homicidal anger that peaceful sharing whether one state or two isn’t going to happen.
celluloid_dream
6hr ago
I'm not sure what you mean about having "zero use cases beyond potential future receptionists". They are already assisting with real tech work in my office. An easy script that might take me half an hour to an hour now takes seconds, with maybe a minute or two to confirm it's correct. They are incredibly good at debugging, sorting out random systems issues, and such. The sort of thing that would cost me a whole morning of frustration more or less gets one-shot by dumping some logs into the LLM and asking it what's up. These queries cost pennies in compute. From my perspective, they have already replaced a junior developer, junior sysadmin, personal assistant, etc.
and this is the worst they will ever be. How can that be terrible financially?
ThisIsSin
Liberty has an anti-privilege bias
6hr ago
just a sort of 'what am I doing here'
Finish Episode 3. Don't lose your head.
FlyingLionWithABook
Has a C. S. Lewis quote for that.
6hr ago
I've only ever been in one accident, and it was because I stopped at the yellow when I shouldn't have.
It was the middle of winter, and the roads were very icy. I was late noticing the yellow, and I slammed on the brakes. I was able to just barely stop before entering the intersection: but the person behind me was not so lucky, and rear ended me. Technically she was at fault, but I know it was my bad. You can't expect someone to stop that fast on slippery roads, I should have just gone through.
Sloot
6hr ago
I can assure you the female desire to be sex objects, display their bodies, and court sexual attention did not begin with younger zoomerettes.
Bartender_Venator
6hr ago
If the strange animation doesn't put you off (switching between old and new animation), the Zeta Gundam compilation movies are a great place to start without committing to a full series. There are compilations of the original Gundam, as well, and it's actually those movies that made the story famous after the original series was canceled. Skip ZZ. If you like Ghibli movies watch Turn A.
coffee_enjoyer
☕️
6hr ago
Why are there not loitering counter-drones above troop movements in Ukraine? I’m seeing footage of surveillance drones with high-fidelity video recording, zooming in 16x or 32x onto targets. What’s stopping the development of drones with video recording that feeds into AI and surveils for incoming enemy drones? Ai should be able to determine if something is a drone from visual signature + movement. Then you’d simply have to equip it with some kind of birdshot or have it launch a smaller drone.
Light novels are mostly regular books that have occasional anime-style illustrations in them, maybe ten per volume. They are written at a lower level of language complexity and are aimed at younger audiences; basically the Japanese equivalent of YA novels.
Example 1, from "An Introduction to Light Novels".
Example 2, from "What Are Light Novels? How To Write Light Novels?".
Durarara was originally a light novel, and was adapted into both a manga and an anime. This is completely normal in the incestous media ecosystem of Japan; The Saga of Tanya the Evil is another good example.
In general, the lower the production cost, the more titles there are. So these days there are tons of web novels, the most popular of which get rewritten into light novels, the most successful of which get adapted to manga, and only the very best get adapted to anime.
One notable feature of modern anime is that it often serves as essentially an advertisement for the manga or light novels rather than as an end in itself, so you get one or two cours and then nothing, because there is no point in promoting a print series that has already ended. C'est la vie.
FlyingLionWithABook
Has a C. S. Lewis quote for that.
6hr ago
If you're the kind of person who writes things like "the color of their soul" then yes, I would agree you are a Four. :-)
Enneagram "tests" are pretty hit and miss, I find the best way to type someone is to teach the types to them and let them type themselves. But based on your comments 4w5 sounds pretty likely for you.
ThenElection
6hr ago
Note to self: the best way to get @DaseindustriesLtd to write a lengthy comment on an ML topic is to write a post confidently and aggressively wrong about the topic.
YoungAchamian
6hr ago
Why do you open up like this:
Having no interest to get into a pissing context
But start your argument like this:
but amounts to epitemically inept, reductionist, irritated huffing and puffing with an attempt to ride on (irrelevant) credentials
It doesn't come off as some fervent truth-seeking, passionate debate, and/or intelligent discourse. It comes across as a bitter nasty commentariat incredulous that someone would dare to have a different opinion from you. Multiple people in this post were able to disagree with OP without resorting to prosaic insults in their first sentence. I get that you have a lot of rep around here, which gives you a lot of rope but why not optimize for a bit more light instead of a furnace full of heat? It could not have been hard to just not write that sentence...
At the risk of getting into it with you again. What did you think of this when it made its rounds 2 months ago: https://ml-site.cdn-apple.com/papers/the-illusion-of-thinking.pdf
Ioper
6hr ago
Millennials dressed like literal prostitues when they were young though. 'Sexless blob' came when they got older and could uncharitably be viewed as a cope for aging out of attractiveness (or getting fat).
Bartender_Venator
7hr ago
It changes a lot in between parts, in terms of artstyle, storytelling, setting, powers, etc. The first 10 episodes of part 1 (i.e. Part 1 of the original manga) in particular is pretty rough compared to the others, and the action only really kicks off in episode 3, but it certainly kicks off.
It's true that most of the stuff online is either fluff or paywalled, and there are a lot of expensive workshops out there. You can skip those. If you want to get into it, you really just need to read one book: Personality Types: Using the Enneagram for Self Discovery, by Don Riso. It has 90% of everything you would ever need to know about the Enneagram, packaged up in a very readable format. You can probably get it at a used bookstore for $10, and it will likely be at your local library.
(Or you can read it online here, if you don't mind being a pirate)
Here's an excerpt from the book on Type Five:
Like the other two members of the Doing Triad, average Fives tend to have problems with security because they fear that the environment is unpredictable and potentially threatening. Fives protect themselves by being extraordinarily observant so that they can anticipate problems in the environment, particularly problems with other people. Their curiosity, their insight, their need to make sense of their perceptions — and eventually, their paranoid tendencies — are all attempts to defend themselves from real or imagined dangers.
When Fives are healthy, they observe reality as it is and are able to comprehend complex phenomena at a glance. In their search for security, however, the perceptions of even average Fives tend to become skewed. They come to premature conclusions about the environment by projecting their faulty interpretations on it. They begin to reduce the complexity of reality to a single, all-embracing idea so that they can defend themselves by having everything figured out. And if they become unhealthy, Fives are the type of persons who take their eccentric ideas to such absurd extremes that they become obsessed with completely distorted notions about reality. Ultimately, unhealthy Fives become paranoid, utterly terrified by the threatening visions which they have created in their minds.
Their problem with anxiety, one of the issues common to the personality types of the Doing Triad, is related to their difficulty with perceiving reality objectively. They are afraid of allowing anyone or anything to influence them or their thoughts. They fear being controlled or possessed by someone else. Ironically, however, even average Fives are not unwilling to be possessed by an idea, as long as the idea has originated with them. Nothing must be allowed to influence their thinking lest their sense of self be diminished, although by relying solely on their own ideas, without testing them in the real world, Fives eventually become out of touch with reality.
The upshot of this is that average to unhealthy Fives are uncertain whether or not their perceptions of the environment are valid. They do not know what is real and what is the product of their minds. They project their anxiety-ridden thoughts and their aggressive impulses into the environment, becoming fearful of the antagonistic forces which seem to be arrayed against them. They gradually become convinced that their peculiar, and increasingly paranoid, interpretation of reality is the way things really are. In the end, they become so terrorized that they cannot act even though they are consumed by anxiety.
ThisIsSin
Liberty has an anti-privilege bias
7hr ago
You had me questioning whether or not we watched the same show for a second there. Granted, it's been quite a while.
There is a whole thing where the two middle school aged girls are implied to have had sex or at least made out together which is why the other girl is a third wheel
If you're talking about this, Hitomi's just being stupid about it, and this is a meme for a reason. Also, I hate to break this to you, but 14 year olds do know what lesbians are, and if the mere mention of [a character that age considers that a half-reasonable explanation in the absence of other evidence] is salacious pedo-bait then I really don't understand what wouldn't be.
and their bosoms
What bosoms? Most of the girls are relatively flat; the only real exception to that is Mami, and I guess Sayaka's chestplate makes them look a bit bigger. As for the skirts, yes, drawing your attention to that part of the inner thigh is the reason people use that outfit.
Well I suppose it is but it's a standard I oppose.
Wait, you really think a 'sexuality' predicated on a lack of secondary sexual characteristics would be... enticed by outfits meant to accentuate them? That doesn't make much logical sense to me.
Instead, I think this is just your normal adult woman fetish being activated in a way you're uncomfortable with/not used to and being Very Concerned about it.
When I visited Boston in the summer of 2016, i was looking forward to doing some girl-watching at Revere Beach, accessible by the T.
Almost everyone there was Latino, though, and it looked like a rough neighborhood. I guess the area's white residents had long since abandoned the place for some beach you could only access by car.
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