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No_one
7m ago
” It’s such a clownish statement you would never believe it actually came out of someone’s mouth, but it did.
You live in clown world. A CRS insider published a book bragging how he and his colleagues have been secretly stage managing race riots, race controversies and so on, in confidence from everyone but maybe some senate committee and president since 1962.
Yes, they only tell congress what they want to tell congress, and they're not subject to FOIA. Book was published in 2020 or so.
Most everyone assumed this crap was managed and CRS was even mentioned because they're not that secret, but e.g. knowledge of this book only came up in 2025.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56253400
In short, it's a clown world so I'm not sure why you're surprised people act like clowns.
Hadad
13m ago
I vehemently revile Muslims and think they're the greatest threat to myself and the things I care about. I want them wiped out; failing that, I want them globally castrated, and unable to project meaningful power outside their war-torn shithole of a theater.
Jews, for all their purported failings, want to leech off systems, not destroy them entirely with Bronze Age barbarism.
hanikrummihundursvin
18m ago
Why? For some reason that's not some nebulous human flourishing?
No_one
18m ago
In case you really, really do not get it, it's what's called 'sexual innuendo'. English has a relatively impoverished vocabulary so people just substitute whatever words seem roughly appropriate and arrange them in a way that's suggestive.
Hadad
26m ago
The woke have largely backed down from their most extreme positions during the summer of george, on BLM riots, covid restrictions, metoo nonsense, DEI, etc. And the anti-immigration position is getting a lot more play in the halls of power. I wouldn’t say it’s the best of all possible worlds yet, but it’s fine. In time, all problems can be solved.
This is completely false. They haven't backed down even slightly. Every step back they've taken has been forced by people like FC bringing constant attention to their actions, opposing them at every level possible, organizing opposition, securing legal victories, etc., etc., and woke is still trying to escalate relentlessly.
You did say you were going to coerce me, or else the woke (earlier you) would coerce me. So it looked like it will be only the fault of people like you if I can no longer live in the peaceful modern vacuum. But sure, if you're willing to renounce coercion, I can do peaceful coexistence with anyone.
You're free to decide Woke coercion is preferable. Myself, FC, and many others have decided it's not. What are we to do now?
Hadad
33m ago
That's fine. I don't take responsibility for those future tradcops throwing hoes in the slammer, either.
Hadad
34m ago
No, the Muslims chanting death to America are not my friends, no matter how much you, I, or anyone else hate Jews.
Hadad
36m ago
As a lefty, can I have your support on having a robust social safety net? Because I guess the budget doesn't matter now.
You cannot have my support for your pet projects, no. I don't want to fund them.
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
37m ago
Right, that and the fact that, as I understand it, the Iranian regime strictly bans Western music and most other Western cultural output, to the point where their people have to find bootleg version of American artists’ music. Yeah, very “friendly to Western culture.”
I'm honestly pretty confused as to how this got communicated so poorly, but you seem to be acting in good faith so I'll take responsibility for the miscommunication.
No, I see what you mean now. You're imagining a much more significant investment of resources into Iran than I've advocated, one that would meaningfully cripple us in the face of China. At no point would I suggest we drain ourselves (comparatively) dry.
There is no universe in which the USA is bombing TSMC facilities. I'm really not sure how I gave that impression, but to be clear that is not happening. There are allegedly "kill switches" in fabs to make the machines not work anymore in the event of an occupation.
No, I'm saying that's what is really keeping China out, and what our munitions would be better purposed for. We would never let them dominate the chip factories utterly, we'd absolutely destroy them. Whether that be kill switches or utter destruction. We can't 'conquer' China, or even do much to stop it absent nuclear armageddon. But Taiwan's much easier pickings. Better to destroy a resource than let an enemy seize it.
Tree
41m ago
Listing random problems does nothing to justify:
- your dire, ever-postponed predictions
- your proposed solutions
The woke have largely backed down from their most extreme positions during the summer of george, on BLM riots, covid restrictions, metoo nonsense, DEI, etc. And the anti-immigration position is getting a lot more play in the halls of power. I wouldn’t say it’s the best of all possible worlds yet, but it’s fine. In time, all problems can be solved.
You did say you were going to coerce me, or else the woke (earlier you) would coerce me. So it looked like it will be only the fault of people like you if I can no longer live in the peaceful modern vacuum. But sure, if you're willing to renounce coercion, I can do peaceful coexistence with anyone.
Hadad
42m ago
At no point does nuking Israel become better. The goal isn't to maximize some nebulous human flourishing, it's to keep nukes out of the hands of Islamic zealots.
chooky
45m ago
What does the existence of no fault divorce have to do with all of this? Your point seems like a slam dunk with just 1, 2 and 4.
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
47m ago
Why should Ted or Bush or anyone bother weighing up the pros and cons if God is on his side and will sort it out anyway?
You have perhaps heard the sayings "God helps those who help themselves" and "God is on the side with the superior firepower"?
MaiqTheTrue
Renrijra Krin
47m ago
I mean, ideally all of this would happen organically. Subculture is how you get new ideas, new insights. But because of modern technology and our understanding of psychology we managed to basically take artificial control over the engines of culture. Music used to come from seedy dive bars where local artists would work on their sound before being discovered by labels. They’d sound unique because the isolation from the mainstream music scene allowed them to experiment and invent new and interesting sounds. New ideas tend to come from the fringes where an idea can be worked on and perfected away from mainstream culture.
The internet and especially social media have changed all of this. Those hidden pockets of creativity are now put online where the concepts are put online and co-opted or destroyed before they can be refined enough to stand on their own. Worse, the internet has created a situation in which everyone is almost constantly being bombarded with content (read:propaganda) all the time. You think like everyone around you unless you take special care to unplug. But especially in politics, this means it’s almost impossible to come up with something new, unless you’re pretty much a radical. Everyone else is reading the same script, the one that doesn’t work anymore because it’s not 1982 anymore. Most of the apparatus of politics runs on inertia a dead system that ran on Consensus, on very carefully crafted campaigns and old tired bromides and ideas about politics that were invented for your grandparents or great grandparents. We have AI and fentanyl, we’re possibly approaching WW3, and our traditional ways of thinking about politics was laid down when digital clocks were the height of modern technology, Spock was on TV, and kids hid under their desks because the commies were going to nuke us.
Give me the radicals, even if they’re wrong. It’s the only defense against total stagnation and irrelevance.
RandomRanger
Just build nuclear plants!
49m ago
Well Chirac said that's what happened and he was on the phone with Bush.
I think it's strange and concerning that leaders of a nuclear superpower are using this apocalyptic, religious language regarding high-profile foreign policy. There are both deniable (Chirac and Trump stuff) and undeniable instances of this weirdness. Diplomats do not usually send back this kind of message to a head of state, Huckabee is a wildly inappropriate choice for ambassador but that's to be expected at this point.
I don't like Ted Cruz's support of Israel but it seems to be more than simply 'I've been paid off' or 'I know this is good for my political career', it's 'I am a true believer'. The latter has fewer limits on their enthusiasm and is more dangerous because of it.
Leaders should be reasoning in a sober, secular way, weighing up the pros and cons. When a CEO says 'God is guiding my hands' then it's a bit sus. Why should Ted or Bush or anyone bother weighing up the pros and cons if God is on his side and will sort it out anyway?
Fruck
Lacks all conviction
51m ago
How long are you going to keep doing this? Why can't you just put forward your positions and then defend them instead of constantly strawmanning your opponents? And no matter what you think, that is what you are doing to Natalie Winters. Well, aside from boosting her media profile. I'll admit, this was a unique variant, but that is still all you do, strawman your opponents and then demand they defend your insane understanding of their position. Cut it out for fucks sake.
and being so low-class the spacetime continuum bends under the enormous weight of the lack of class.
And being so low-class the spacetime continuum bends under the enormous weight of it.
And being so low-class the spacetime continuum bends under the enormous weight of all the trash.
And being so low-class the sheer inferiority warps the spacetime continuum.
And being so low-class the very air around them felt greasy.
What does lack of class weigh Alex?
The_Nybbler
In the game of roller derby, women aren't just the opposing team; they're the ball.
52m ago
Iranians are friendlier to Western Civilization than Israelis.
If you skip over the whole batshit Islamic theocracy and the "Death to America"/"The Great Satan" thing
chooky
53m ago
One obvious move is to just get rid of the marriage penalty on taxes. But... here we are seriously looking at getting rid of taxes on tips.
hanikrummihundursvin
1hr ago
I'm not sure where you are from but 'Bomb everything and then watch mass starvation, suffering and death whilst shrugging your shoulders saying 'Iran can't have nukes' sounds, at best, bizarre.
Like, at what point does nuking Israel just become a more humanitarian option to your proposals.
Vacuous predictions. That broken record keeps spinning.
Read a relationships thread here some time. Read similar conversations elsewhere. Observe the collapses in sex, relationships, marriages and fertility. Observe general attitudes to such modern marvels as the Dating App. Observe how men and women talk about each other, as a class. Observe the history of the #MeToo movement, and its deployment of unsustainable coercion and attempts to escalate to the police and jail to settle what it perceived to be failures of the previous sexual order, an order built and defined entirely by the Progressive sexual revolution. Observe the grooming gangs in the UK, the total failure of governments at all levels to do anything but pointedly ignore the problem, and contrast that with their heavy-handed efforts against anyone who refused to allow the subject to be quietly buried. Observe the number of Americans willing to endorse political murder of their opponents, the generally bleak outlook, the proliferation of black pills, the evident rise of extremism on all sides.
It is entirely possible that the above is not your problem. It seems unlikely to me that it will continue to not be your problem indefinitely.
Your life so far has been that of a zealot, flip-flopping from one extreme group to the next, fanning the flames of CW and even civil war wherever he went.
I do not mind personal criticisms. I do mind inaccuracy.
I've spent long portions of my life as a moderate by-the-book "none of this matters, let's just chill out and go to work and save and invest in the stock market and let the experts sort it all out." When I became an extremist, I have been the sort that points out that widespread endorsement of unrestrained, lawless mob violence in support of tyrannical and unaccountable government authority will end badly, that incentives are decisive, and that sooner or later reckless hatred will recoil to the ruin of those who wield it. And now I confine myself to attempting to warn people of the foolishness they are evidently stumbling toward.
always trying to force on others the one thing, or its opposite.
It's an evocative image, but the charge is baseless. I do not want to rule you. I do want to live in an orderly, structured environment, and I understand that this requires a non-trivial degree of coercion. There are many whose idea of an ordered, structured environment conflict with my own; we should each do our best to leave each other's communities alone, up to and including moving away from each other. To the extent that it is possible, I want to live in peace and plenty. To the extent that living in peace and plenty is not possible, I am pretty sure it is not the fault of people like me.
They're stats from literally everywhere I look. Stats that have been tracked for decades. Unless something radical changed with definitions or analysis (possible, I grant), then the trends are all pointing the same way, and demonstrating the same underlying phenomenon.
I've been through it, I've had multiple close friends and acquaintances who are all having the same difficulties. I find it on reddit forums, I find it on my groupchats, I find it when I hear from people in my age cohort and younger in hear.
Its a rising chorus of voices that some people claim not to here.
When the stats are lining up with the anecdotes are lining up with the personal observations, and EVERY SINGLE person on the other side says "No, can't be true, I know a guy that is doing fine" while offering zero verifiable evidence...
I'm not going to update very heavily in favor of that.
There is literally not a single piece of statistical evidence that supports the idea that relationship formation is improving.
I can't find ANY single person who is having a 'good time' in the 'find a partner' game.
None.
Zero.
Marriage rates are about the most objective stat you can find that are tracked by the Census, and the definition of marriage is about as standardized as you can get.
They're in the tank., especially among the younger generation.
This is downstream of something.
Offer me an alternative hypothesis.
If you say so.
Anyway, here's an extremely recent article from The Economist bemoaning the fact that despite the fact women are now outperforming men in EVERY school subject, but can't seem to keep up in Math, so OBVIOUSLY we need to close that gap.
Very evenhanded analysis.
Here's direct evidence that Lockheed Martin very directly discriminates against White Males in deciding on who gets bonuses.
Would you wager on them being the only major company doing this?
What does 'rigging the game' look like, to you?
Never have I said anything remotely like that.
What I HAVE said is that the competition for the pool of 'acceptable' single women is high enough that its guaranteed that many men will lose out.
And women having the perception of more choice makes them less likely to settle, at all.
Too many men chasing too small a pool of women, full stop.
That's just objectively true if we restrict our examination to dating apps
They've been choosing quite freely for a long time, and they're less happy than ever. TFR is in the gutter. Women are suffering from more mental illnesses than ever
What now? Shall we try even harder to give them MORE choice?
Or just let the status quo continue?
You tell me.
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