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When American Indians acquired "lined composition book" technology, they used them to produce art remarkably similar to that of a typical schoolboy.
I was really hoping this was leading up to the cool S appearing in a mid-1800s notebook.
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I appreciate all of the effort ZorbaTHut put in to this site's backend but I don't think it should bear the brunt of his effort this week, rather focusing on his other two roles managing Microsoft Outlook and the FAA's communications systems.
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Is this fun? The US has grounded all flights nationwide as of my morning JST, attributing this to a communication failure. According to articles I've read this is the first such occurrence since Sep 11, 2001, except for one period lasting a few hours a few years ago. The National Weather Service is (or was as I am writing this) also down.
The attributed reason is "communication issues." I guess this is feasible but seems like a smokescreen, but then my tinfoil hat hasn't been used for a while. Anyway happy Friday. The requisite joke: What do you call a fish with no eyes?A fsh.
Edit: I don't like to wipe my own posts but Mods just remove this if necessary; it may not belong here depending on how things play out.
Edit 2: Discussion here.
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@WhiningCoil we've talked about local AI here before. Are you still messing around with it? I found an old article by Brad Wardell ("old" meaning August, so stuff about specific models and graphics card pricing is going to be wildly out of date). But maybe it's worth a skim for you. Qwen3.8-27B-Q4_K_XL is a surprisingly capable local model, there's apparently a Qwen4 coming very soon, and in the interim Qwen3.8-Flash-Next can run surprisingly-faster-than-molasses given its size.
Also, are you still on the retrocomputing/retrogaming stuff? I bought some OpenRouter credits to mess around with the larger open-weight models that I wouldn't be able run locally. As part of that, I pointed GLM-5.3-Flash and DeepSeek-v4.1-Flash-1017 at reversing/documenting some old DOS/Win9x networking software (I had a DOS client and a Windows server, and the site that held the reverse has rotted off the WWW) and was stunned at how quickly it got things going in dosbox/wine, and figured out the basic details of the packet formats and how everything worked. In a couple of evenings and about $15 of credit I'd got a pretty thorough description of the protocol. This makes me think they might be an option for solving weird problems like adapting old networking systems or unpicking old file formats, if you find yourself needing to do any of those sorts of things.
Man, I'm so busy with work, kid and baby, I've barely touched any of that.
We have a local model on our network at work. But "local" is still running on a workstation with way more VRAM that I'll ever have in my home lab. It writes tests ok. I have no faith in it's ability to adhere to design principles though. Still, it almost tempts me to get a dedicated AI server for home if I ever decide to quit and do my own thing. I was flying when I was slinging code on one branch, and having the AI write tests for me on another.
The retro projects I've seen AI make short work of lately are insane. Recompilation projects for Mechwarrior 2 and 3, emulating PowerVR cards with pixel perfect accuracy. People are vibe coding this shit in like a week or two, and I'm deeply curious about their workflow. The AI haters are in full route, just glad that finally after decades of poor options, they can play old games that defied every attempt to run on modern Windows.
All the same, I enjoy coding too much to offload more than the busywork like unit tests onto AI. And so far, I can also still easily outcode the local models.
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Today is the 15th anniversary of Fenton's run across Richmond Park, London. There are so many elements here that consistently make it funny to me: the fact that the cameraman doesn't laugh until right at the end, the off-camera shouting getting increasingly more desperate, the deer start moving, leading to the big reveal of Fenton the dog nailing life, and his out-of-breath owner desperately trying to catch up while dropping exasperated "Jesus Christ"s... it's a great video.
It got me thinking about virality, as in, would this video still do the kinds of numbers it's clearly capable of doing if it were released in current year? Would the uploader be able to resist adding a bunch of tiktok "FAAAA" sounds or other nonsense over it? So much about what makes the video good is how understated everything is. It just kinda happens--nobody is directing the action or commenting on it. Mr. Beast would probably edit it significantly. Would people be able to sit through the first 16 seconds of the video, a bunch of boring, everyday, out-of-focus deer, before we even hear the first "Fenton!" without abandoning it and scrolling for more interesting content?
I like to think so.
Well I enjoyed it. My issue with the beginning wasn't that it was boring or out of focus, but that the camera shake threatened to make my eyes bleed.
Worth though.
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Do you think there will be a window of opportunity to use AI to rewrite HPMOR with Malfoid before the whole AI thing either implodes or explodes?
It would be hilarious if in the rewrite they're doing the blood purity test and the results demonstrate that magic really is weakening due to mixing with muggleborns, and Harry has to overcome all his biases about racism and come to terms with HBD as a true fact about the world.
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You can do it right now.
Yes; Fable 5 is good enough to do this.
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Why HPMOR and not HP?
Because it's so much better? I dropped Harry Potter after book 5 because Harry goes all emo; I only read the last two books because HPMoR was coming out and I wanted to understand the lore.
From Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality, chapter 27:
And from chapter 43:
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Because I dropped the original HP while it was still releasing for a lack of interest, but HPMOR was the high point of my idealism and I still remember it fondly. Because I would find it hilarious to have Yud's magnum opus amended by an AI that is disapproved by him.
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The good old days of logging in to WoW 1.6 and leveling up my character on CS_Office…
https://youtu.be/kcCz1UtuTrs
Man the sound of the AWP is forever burned into my brain.
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I'm not at work right when the Great Outlook Outage of 2026 happened. Such a shame.
I mean, I actually work with real human beings, in person, so it wouldn't have been as simple as taking a nap while on the clock. But a good fraction of medical work in the NHS revolves around email, and God knows what the hell is going on there.
Well it is good to see the not so bright people that decided to procure office 364 suffering.
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That's why local Exchange and AD servers are superior.
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I was glad to hear of the outage - finally I can get some real work done without interruption! But then again, Friday is usually my productive day to begin with because many people take fridays off, and besides Teams is still working so it's not actually that quiet.
Yeah we've just kind of moved what should have been an email into a dozen teams group chats with lengthy paragraphs of text.
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My favourite take on the alleged Jensen Huang honeypot operation so far:
Does this kind of thing actually happen? The subtle approach doesn’t always work either as a honey trap, you got to research your target better. For me, it depends on what kind of food they show up with. If they know my taste they’ll be let right in.
I wish I was important enough to be the target of a honeypot attempt.
Does it matter if she has blue hair and the scales err?
It matters to ME.
Beggars can’t be choosers!
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