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kky
12hr ago
- Yes.
- Under 5 for stop signs. Full stop for lights.
- Nope. Follow the flow of traffic. 5 over is almost always fine. Reduce heavily on quiet residential, out of respect.
- Only real rule is: don’t match pace with someone on your right. Speed up or slow down. Getting over is the best thing to do. Don’t ride anyone’s bumper, because it’s an obvious way to get in an accident and get stuck paying all the bills.
- It’s a little more nuanced. When you need to get over, be assertive, but be safe. Don’t play chicken or fuck around with physical law. But you don’t need someone to lay down the red carpet before you move.
- Follow the rules.
- If you realize you’re in the wrong lane at a light or some such, is it OK to break the flow of traffic to go where you meant to go, or should you continue as designated and course correct later?
FWIW all these questions are, to me, subsidiary to the real rules of driving, which are, in order of importance:
- Be in control of your vehicle.
- Keep yourself and others safe.
- Do not menace others, especially those who are more vulnerable, but also don’t worry people who are at risk of hurting you with your own vulnerability.
- Proceed in an orderly and predictable manner, following the customs and laws of the road.
- Ensure that everyone can get to where they’re going swiftly and cleanly.
Everything else is just a logical consequence of the above.
Terracotta
12hr ago
At least in England, poor men of the middle class and above marrying rich women was a super standard trope all through the early 20th century. If anything, it's a massively more common and culturally prominent phenomenon than the female gold-digging situation, largely because a rich man who fancies a poor girl can just seduce her and keep her as a mistress until he gets bored.
When a fashion for sentimentality came in in the mid-18th century, there was a mini moral panic among middle-class parents that their young sons might now run off and marry somebody hot instead of a nice rich girl, and there are letter-writer manuals giving advice to parents on how to dissuade sons from doing this.
If the "kept" man doesn't feel familiar as a character, it's because everything a woman owns, including money and land, becomes the full legal property of her husband upon marriage (although by default she'd get about 1/3 of it back upon his death). So the male gold-digger just gets to take his wife's stuff, not be "kept" by her.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
13hr ago
So simple i makes one wonder why they didn't, and what are the chances of them not doing it in the US.
magic9mushroom
If you're going to downvote me, and nobody's already voiced your objection, please reply and tell me
13hr ago
Why do you believe changing the other person's mind is the point of a public argument, as opposed to shaping the audience's opinion?
I will caution that going there tends to legitimise dishonest debating, flaming, and suchlike. It's a mode I've seen advocated by social justice warriors a decade ago (admittedly, they mostly then moved on to "why even allow the debate?"), and is related to why callout culture became a thing.
orthoxerox
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13hr ago
It's the price you pay for having an army of oprichniks. They are simply unsuited to fighting a peer force, and your regular army has no desire to fight for the regime that doesn't respect it.
Iran could dismantle the IRGC and let the army manage itself without overbearing ideological oversight, but this kind of perestroika would threaten the rule of the ayatollahs.
ControlsFreak
13hr ago
How many times has someone been banned for this? Any guesses?
I am qualitatively annoyed by the situation, which is independent of the frequency. However, you have the mod history, so if you'd like to provide numbers to supplement the conceptual-level discussion, that would be appreciated.
You do not have to write an essay, a flowery effortpost, or come up with some wildly innovative idea. You just have to not look like an attention whore on Twitter.
There is a very simple solution for a major event worthy of discussion: write something about it. If it's too low effort, we'll probably clear our throats and say "Low effort, don't do this."
Technically, even this OP wrote something about it. But yeah, I still have no idea what the actual standard is.
Normally if someone rushed to be FIRST! we'd just warn them not to do it again (as I said!) and let the thread continue.
Perhaps your numbers from the mod history will bear out that the typical response is just a warning. I still think this is a bad equilibrium. It provides insufficient distinction between typical low effort garbage that we don't want and obvious 100% topics, which we (I) do. Moreover, I prefer a world where this distinction is overt in policy.
For any other mods who might be casually interested in subscribing to my newsletter this meta topic, I would like to note that so far in the responses, I see very little engagement with my conceptual definition of the problem to be solved, the incentives involved, the current or desired equilibria, or valuation methods for what type of resulting posting dynamics we'd prefer.
Hadad
13hr ago
If your goal is to convince a right-winger to not be a right-winger, you will fail. If your goal is to convince a left-winger to not be a left-winger, you will fail. If your goal is to convince a strange person through hostile interrogation that their values, opinions, or beliefs are wrong, you will fail.
You're arguing for the crowd, or yourself, never your opponent.
orthoxerox
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14hr ago
turn signal
Yes
Stop signs and red lights
Yes, but we don't have retarded four-way stops like in the US
Speed limits
No, they are often badly designed or deliberately set up to extract speeding fines
The left lane
Depends on the traffic. If the road isn't packed, then yes, keep it empty.
make room for you
No
I can break
No
Any other possible driving scissor statements?
Yes
ResoluteRaven
14hr ago
I'm not here to change people's minds. I'm here because this is the online equivalent of an Enlightenment-era coffee shop with a rotating cast of brilliant and eccentric characters with whom to play word games and perhaps learn a thing or two about the world. Like its 18th-century antecedants, it may spit out some future revolutionaries, philosophers, or reformers who will go on to change the world, but that will happen out in the real world, not in this training ground.
Here, the bold may sharpen their rhetorical knives in combat against ideological demons modern and ancient that have been banished from polite society; some of us are just around for the thrill of the fight and don't have any grand vision for remaking the world, while others may discover that they had no stomach for it to begin with.
As to what may happen down the line, I suppose I'm just a high enough decoupler that the fact that in some future conflict I may need to take up arms against the majority of my fellow posters here doesn't bother me too much. If that ends up being the case, then it was fun while it lasted and I wish you all good fortune in the civil wars to come.
Hadad
15hr ago
Amadan already handled this, but to clarify, 'you' is meant toward nations, not you as a person. And my name is definitely not actually Hadad.
ResoluteRaven
15hr ago
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. +10 on the highway, +5 otherwise
4. Left lane is for faster traffic, but not for passing only except on highways with 3 or more lanes
5. No
6. No
No_one
15hr ago
Enforcing borders is not at all arbitrary as that famous wolfpack range map shows. It's as arbitrary as childbirth.
mrtheforce
15hr ago
1: Yes
2: Yes
3: No
4: Yes with qualification
5: Yes
6: Yes
No_one
15hr ago
Yes, it would. It takes a gigantic amount of shells and a lot of time to level a city.
Several H bomb blasts would accomplish the same at a fraction of a cost.
No_one
15hr ago
IAEA said they're days away from having 300 kg of weapons grade material, enough for a dozen nukes.(How they found out? Spooks? Or is it a lie)
Technologically not that stupid Iran stan was saying they already have a compact implosion design, and that the clandestine nature of their program and constraints(bunkers)have made Iran some of the develop world's best centrifuges.
If you're making plutonium byproducts leak and are detected, but you can do isotopic separation on uranium all you want and it's going to be hard to tell.
No_one
15hr ago
It's quite possible clear the sites are deeper.
Back in the GWB II era neocons American like Cheney were obsessed with hydrogen bomb bunker busters and talking loudly how such strikes are clean bc the radiation is mostly contained. Which is kind of true.
satanistgoblin
15hr ago
Jordan was just helping defend Israel against Iranian drones. Saudis are doing jack shit to fight Israel and made it illegal to criticise prince Bonesaw in that regard. Arabs are mostly Quislings, actually.
To be honest you should probably stop, then, and this isn't meant in an antagonistic way; rather it's an acknowledgement of the practical futility of such an exercise. The idea that you ever end up changing anything by participating in forums like this one is laughable. Even if you somehow do manage to convert everyone here to your point of view the overall effect of such a thing would be hilariously tiny, tantamount to a drop in the bucket. You would have spent countless hours to ultimately achieve nothing.
People participate here because they feel like they get something out of it aside from trying to right the political ship, something this forum explicitly isn't meant for. They feel like hashing things out with other people who share their ethos of discourse helps them clarify and sharpen their own thought, even if there is no agreement between the parties (yes you can cherry-pick comments that aren’t high effort, the fact remains the standard of discourse here is far above average). If you don't get that out of it, then I genuinely think it would be better if you left.
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
16hr ago
As soon as you see a "lane ends ahead" sign you should be trying to get over. Don't ride to the very end and then expect to squeeze in.
I pity the fool who has never experienced the sublime beauty of the zipper merge.
This is so 2010's.
Look, I used to care about these periodic flameout posts, and I used to try to come up with solutions that would make hanging out here a little more enjoyable. I never got much of a response, and when I did it was usually in the form of this womanly exasperation that I haven't yet singlehandedly solved the problem yet.
On top of that, I am yet to here of a single space that gives half as much of a hoot about how rightwingers are comfortable there, as this place cares for the comfort of leftwingers, so it's hard to believe there's something uniquely wrong with this place.
What's the point? A better question is, how come you expect people to drop everything, and try to find one for you?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
16hr ago
Also very funny to see any pretense of "rationalism" or truth-seeking completely fly out the window to be replaced by personal anecdotes and confirmation bias.
Point of order: all rationalism is, is exactly that under a few layers of misdirection. Abandoning it is the good and honest thing to do.
Personally I think this is an underrated component of the whole thing, and part of my issue with Bikes. Being predictable is safe.
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