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ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
16hr ago
Work cooked my brain last week, so no update.
Since your last comment was on Monday, @Southkraut, I take it the same goes for you?
Botond173
16hr ago
I’ll not reject this interpretation but we can look at this more charitably even without subscribing to femcel views (whether femcels actually exist is highly debatable in itself, but that’s another subject). I think it’s entirely understandable that many bog standard women find it tiresome and cringey to live in a culture where they’re implicitly expected to engage in a sexual arms race for the attention of the men they find desirable, after the female sexual cartel has collapsed. It’s cringey in the same way normal men cringe at the sight of an army of simps competing for the social attention of e-thots.
Stefferi
Chief Suomiposter
16hr ago
Just make America enough of a soccer country to start having real soccer ultras/hooligans (from what I've seen, the American ones seem to be considered quite larpy). Of course soccer firms tend to be recruitment grounds for actual political extremism, as well, but that's the sort of thing where you "learn to fight. They have to have something to capture, some opponent to beat, and some promise of reward for taking risks" (the last one being social ingroup approval).
SubstantialFrivolity
I'm not even supposed to be here today
16hr ago
I think the point was that soup is cooked, not brewed.
faul_sname
Fuck around once, find out once. Do it again, now it's science.
16hr ago
They're not particularly slow though? They do go on the freeway now. And they've rolled out in Atlanta, which does sometimes get snow and ice, though not nearly as badly as you see in the north or midwest.
self_made_human
amaratvaṃ prāpnuhi, athavā yatamāno mṛtyum āpnuhi
16hr ago
I'd hope most soup would count as hot, and preferably a drink.
George_E_Hale
insufferable blowhard
16hr ago
What kind of soup are you brewing?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
16hr ago
the most we have to show for it is incredibly slow robotaxis operating in geofenced areas within a few select cities that don't have weather, which taxis are under constant monitoring from central command.
IGI-111
God was a dream of good government.
17hr ago
ActuallyATleilaxuGhola
Axolotl Tank Class of '24
17hr ago
the political choice of states and localities not to assist
I thought we settled this question in 1865.
ThisIsSin
PC is for progressive-conservative
17hr ago
14yo perpetrators
Adult perpetrators get adult punishments. That society is abdicating its duty to train its young men and women and delaying -> denying them a significant chunk of the prime of their life does not change this basic biological fact.
The reason why society does that is related to the reason society generally fails to punish criminals- redistributing resources (intangibles like virtue and intelligence are just as real a resource as physical goods are, though I understand this is a fringe view) from the useful and decent to the useless and evil under a belief that being useless or evil could be solved if the community simply loved them more (that it imposes real costs on everyone else is not material to that analysis).
Thanks to the relatively unbalanced rise in political power of those whose evolutionary biological specialization leads them to solve problems that way, that's the approach we most often see in modern times. And in fairness, there is something to that approach; keeping humanity's natural biological tendencies in check can be greatly beneficial to mankind. That being said, though...
At what point should society decide that a kid is beyond redemption?
At the point where means, motive/desire, and opportunity become relevant factors (we treat those who are sufficiently mental defective in the same way- they just go to an institution until they are fixed or die). It's very rare- like, once-in-a-generation rare- for actual children to pull off capital crimes in the first place, but I really don't have a problem with the sentence for the once-in-a-lifetime case of tweenagers luring and murdering a toddler for kicks being death. Probably unwise to parade them through the streets before the gallows, though.
TK-421
17hr ago
I am American and understand how it works...
Then I notice that I'm confused. In your original post you said: "How do you know they’re not US citizens if, as ICE has been doing, the people being detained are not given a chance to prove their citizenship?". But that means you know that ICE can't deprive you of a chance to prove your citizenship because a claim of citizenship (or legal status generally) can only be legally adjudicated by a court. They cannot deprive you of a chance to prove your citizenship. If you know of any cases where it seems they have been doing that I would be extremely interested to learn more - that would be, to me, an actual scandal.
Citizens shouldn’t have to worry about being detained for even a few hours by federal agents just because those agents randomly decide your license is fake...
Yes, but also no. Yes because I agree that citizens shouldn't have to worry about that in the same way I think citizens shouldn't have to worry about being the victim of a crime or (if running for office) citizens shouldn't have to worry about how they're going to put food on the table. Ideals we should strive towards but which are not achievable in our current - maybe any - civilization.
I have no idea about the situation you're describing so I'm not making any judgment about the details. I will admit that there have been enough "ICE Agents Did A Bad" stories that turn out to mean "ICE Agents Enforced Immigration Law" or "Complete Fabrication, ICE Agents Not Involved" that my skepticism level of an ICE related story is at the level of Jussie Smollett reporting a new hate crime. But that's my bias talking and it's absolutely possible that it happened exactly as presented, so let's stipulate that this was a Bad Encounter.
Bad Encounters are bad and we should work to minimize them. Bad Encounters are also inevitable and there are feedback mechanisms to do their best to correct the damage - I truly do hope that if this guy has some sort of case against ICE he gets anything he's entitled to - afterwards.
Maybe, though, this type of Bad Encounter is more widespread than I believe and citizens are being routinely detained in large numbers. I have not seen any evidence from reporting that this is true, I haven't personally seen it or known anyone who has despite having friends who have illegal immigrant family members, and given the number of Hispanic citizens and the intensity of press coverage on the issue I'd expect it to be clearer. If in my bias I have missed it or if this happens in the future (because I think it very improbable) I give you permission to say about me "man, what a maroon". This would also be a large scandal to me.
...especially in a country like this where limiting government overreach was a core value of our constitution...
Skepticism towards authority is pro-American and healthy, but like all virtues it can be taken too far. Don't forget that the same George Washington who freedom fought against British tyranny turned around and personally led troops as President during the Whiskey Rebellion - which was partially a dispute over Federal authority.
anon_
17hr ago
If local governments aren’t actually compelled to provide aid, then they don’t have to run the investigation. They don’t have to provide riot police, or give access to every city building. I have a hard time squaring that with the absolute vitriol getting thrown their way.
They don't legally have to. That is clear. But as a matter of norms, they did something they didn't have to.
You can play the game of "who broke the norm first" if you want.
You can play the game of "what is the next escalation of this norm breaking" as well
Those games are fine, but they do not answer the core question of whether than norm was worth preserving.
OliveTapenade
17hr ago
I wonder, looking at some of the comments up-thread, if it's somthing peculiar to Americans? Do the rest of us treat it like fun make-believe to share with the kids, and for some reason it's just Americans in particular who take it extremely literally and obsess about genuinely convincing children with the most convincing illusion possible?
Or is it, for lack of a better way of putting it, about certain personality types, perhaps very detail-oriented or autistic ones? Maybe if you can't read social cues very well, are very literal-minded, and very trusting by nature, you take what's supposed to be make-believe, genuinely believe it, and then feel surprised and betrayed when you realise your mistake? It's possible that people like that are just overrepresented here and on rationalist-adjacent blogs.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
17hr ago
Dogs though, I'm not convinced at all are capable of evil. They either act according to their natural instincts, or they act how they've been trained.
I am intrigued - what do you think is the difference between humans and dogs, that you believe the “He’s a good boy he was just raised wrong” argument above doesn’t also apply to humans?
anon_
17hr ago
If ICE agents actually come to major and life threatening harm as a direct result of city-mandated inaction
I think "direct result" ends up doing a lot of work. ICE could also go out in fewer/larger groups closer to where backup is. The Feds could hold more forces in reserve to respond to threats.
In fact, that's probably where this is going to actually end up -- no one is gonna get hurt, but the political choice of states and localities not to assist will end up being an operational constraint on ICE.
ulyssessword
17hr ago
The board could say whatever it wanted, but it can only regulate the things that the State delegates to them. For example this Act (pdf) does not give them any power to regulate radio broadcasts. Heck, they can't even set their own fees: It's fixed at $100 in section 36, and would require legislation to change.
Botond173
17hr ago
Before porn was widespread, a successful 30yo married guy was (at least to the West of the Hajnal Line) typically someone who has been married for a few years already, to a woman 3-6 years his junior, plus he was probably someone with more or less ample experience in sex before marriage. Unless he had a specific penchant for 19-year-olds and nobody else, which doesn't seem likely, it's not like he experienced his situation as greatly frustrating.
On another note, I find it curious that you're not addressing all the negative externalities of the porn industry at all.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
17hr ago
Yes. I would rather be whipped a few times than deprived a $10 million dollar bonus. Hedons ARE fungible. Maybe not perfectly fungible, but if you tell me there is no amount of money that would convince you to take one stroke of the lash then… I just won’t believe you.
anon_
17hr ago
The necessity is in developing better pathways for young men to enter adulthood and develop a sense of self paired with durable external meaning. Some sort of religious or, at least, high-minded civic metaphysics is a necessary part of this
Historically, a decent number of those pathways ended up with the young man dead at the bottom of the ocean or under the hangman's axe or in a monastery somewhere.
Young men can't be given a pathway to manhood with no uncertainty in it. Some of them have to fail, otherwise success doesn't mean fuck all.
token_progressive
maybe not the only progressive here
17hr ago
borders in general are basically unethical, but outright saying that is still a bit outside the Overton window of mainstream political discourse
I don't think this is a particularly common view among leftists, but I've definitely heard statements to that effect in far-left media spaces (i.e., from people publishing, not just random comments).
Markass
17hr ago
I think it's too early to tell. It's more acceptable now to criticise porn and masturbation, sure. But there are still many communities on the Internet where porn consumption is not shamed. Maybe you wouldn't talk about porn in polite society, but that's not a problem if you only socialize in these bubbles, and nobody can force you to talk to other people. Will the broader culture shift to be anti-porn enough for a porn ban to be successful? Hard to say.
Butlerian
Not robot-ist just don't like 'em
17hr ago
“Not being a great dog trainer” is hardly grounds for vituperative opprobrium though, is it? Many people are not great dog trainers.
Botond173
17hr ago
It's interesting to see how porn has become somewhat of an obsession not only at opposite sides of the political/cultural spectrum, but all across it.
To the extent that this is true, and I think it largely is, it mainly is so in my view because it's interpreted as another male problem in general. Take note that the female consumption of pornographic literature is reaching unprecedented levels at the same time but without inviting any negative reactions from the mainstream media.
I definitely believed Santa was real. I can't speak for the internal thoughts of anyone around me, but they didn't seem to be just going along, they seemed to believe it as well.
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