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The Palestinians have alienated every single one of their neighbors single one of their neighbors, ruined every chance at peace they ever have, and maintained the world's biggest victim complex while being the world's sorest losers. The average Palestinian is a regressive piece of shit who supports the cruelties of his people -- he's just mad he's losing.
Ok, now I’m convinced you’re an intentionally anti-Semitic troll. The belligerent Israeli act was straining credulity already but this is just a 4chan screed about Jews that you’ve Cntrl find+replaced with “Palestinian”. You’re even playing up the Goebbels stereotype about Jewish projection.
Hadad
1d ago
I was surprised it happened without any leaks, but pleased with the result. It's what the bombs are good for.
Hadad
1d ago
Sorry, I meant they can coexist with America / the western world. A world better off for not having Palestinians in it, so I appreciate Israel's expansion -- though it should have happened decades ago, no one ever should have let a bitter, vengeful minority dig in roots. The net human suffering would be so much lower if they'd just totally conquered & displaced generations ago. Their greatest moral failure has been half-assing it.
AvocadoPanic
1d ago
Then let's leave them to it, but stop paying for it or supporting it.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
1d ago
It seems like many Rightists got used to being out of power and haven't psychologically accepted that Trump's election is something that happened.
fmac
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1d ago
It's such a stupid idea, there's no way they will
I said the exact same thing loudly and confidently about Russia going into Ukraine though, so...
Hadad
1d ago
As opposed to brainrotted Boomers who think women and minorities are oppressed.
Those people are also morons, yeah. When the boomers have died off, we'll be living in a crazy world.
They didn't need Facebook to come to that conclusion yet arrived at it anyway, so the problem rests with the people, not the technology.
It's both. A better people would perhaps not be susceptible to TikTok propaganda, but we don't have a better people.
Hadad
1d ago
I don't think you're a bleeding heart lefty. But I do think this sentimentality is actively worse for the long-term health of the region than my lack of it. So, yes, I'd suggest being less of a bleeding heart. The world is unfair. It sucks the Palestinians grew up in these conditions. It sucks the world broke them.
But they are broken. Israel can coexist in a way they can't.
fmac
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1d ago
I used to enjoy going on /r/stupidpol
Eternal September comes for everyone eventually.
I really liked that sub, I owe it a solid debt of gratitude for shaping my thinking in some ways. I learned a lot, and also laughed a lot. It was basically antibodies for my intense dislike of the woke mob.
But man, they just cannot stop taking the stupidest most contrarian positions on things purely because the out group likes the other thing. Makes the discussion so lame and predictable.
Hadad
1d ago
I trust the ability of the Israelis to keep the Saracens at bay, given the existential nature of their grudge.
fmac
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1d ago
the genocidal jihadis are oppressed
I think it's very possible for them to be both genocidal and oppressed. I also think being genocidal has made them oppressed, and being oppressed guarantees they stay genocidal.
To pre-empt "you're a bleeding heart lefty", if I were dictator of my country, I would absolutely ensure a Palestinian refugee diaspora did not form in my country. This does not go well for the hosts typically.
However, half the Gaza strip is under the age of ~20. They've grown up living lives of poverty in a ""country"" that you can walk end to end in about 8 hours, and it's not easy to leave. I'm sure they grow up hearing stories of friends/family/neighbors who've lost loved ones, been injured, or lost their homes to isreali strikes.
If you or I were born there, we'd hate Jews too. I have a very hard time holding teenagers accountable for the beliefs they were born into.
If I were designing an environment to incubate terrorists I don't think I could do much better than the Gaza strip, it's basically a terrorist factory.
I'm pretty black pilled on the whole situation. I think both sides are too deep and too stubborn to ever resolve it. I think they deserve each other.
RandomRanger
Just build nuclear plants!
1d ago
Assassinating Bin Laden and other leaders is not why Al-Qaeda isn't a major threat to the US right now, that has more to do with improved security and intelligence operations preventing major attacks and ISIS stealing their thunder in the Islamist world. Right now they're focused on building up and developing with their return to Afghanistan.
TowardsPanna
1d ago
If the American empire isn't inevitably heading for its end already... Getting stuck in Iran would really do the trick. Putin would be cackling to himself.
ThisIsSin
Cainanites and Abelists
1d ago
it's just a grim reminder we should have banned tiktok ages ago.
As opposed to brainrotted Boomers who think women and minorities are oppressed.
They didn't need Facebook to come to that conclusion yet arrived at it anyway, so the problem rests with the people, not the technology.
You're absolutely on point that the early 90's was clearly not a stable equilibrium, as it still led us to where we are.
But, no joke, the change that I think screwed us in a few different ways was The Student Loan Reform Act of 1993.
You know that a post is going to be a banger when it starts out like this.
Probably causes women's standards to rise, they wouldn't accept a partner without a degree if they have one.
Indeed. Once a woman has a diploma, she thinks herself too good for a man without a diploma. Which is a problem, because more women than men are getting degrees.
Women start attending college more often. Which has them burn more of their most fertile years, and the added debt load makes them less appealing as partners and less able to support kids.
University educated women demand more from men, but offer less.
Men are attracted to youth, purity, and fertility. A bachelor's degree means a woman who is four years older and four years closer to menopause, not to mention one who has a negligible chance of being a virgin (college as an institution is almost perfectly designed to increase a woman's body count, first by making her break up with her high school boyfriend when they inevitably go to different schools, then by making her spend four years away from any sort of male relative supervision, then making her break up AGAIN when she and her current boyfriend find work in different states). And God forbid she falls for the grad school meme; talk about hoeflation!
At a certain point, this market is not going to clear. We have reached that point.
On an individual level, any father who is aware of these issues should seriously consider not sending his daughters to university. On a collective level, college delenda est.
fmac
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1d ago
Because Israel is white
Jews, Schrodinger's race
What's fun is you have factions on the left who deeply believe that they're white, and ones who take great offense to that.
There's also factions on the right who very much think they're white, or who think they're very much not.
And all for different reasons too, lots of fun
Gaashk
1d ago
Thanks for the update! I don't necessarily have anything useful to say about it, other than that it does, indeed, sound cultish and destructive.
fmac
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1d ago
Israel manipulates, but they're at least capable of peaceful coexistence
While I agree that fundamentalist Muslims make probably the worst National neighbors, this is pretty generous to the Isreali's
Their history of perpetually expanding their settlements in the West Bank (at least they left Gaza) shows they're not particularly interested in totally peaceful coexistence.
fmac
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1d ago
world would treat Iran's nuclear program very differently.
If only there was some kind of agreement to monitor the nuclear program and help chill the situation out. It could be a joint plan between nations, it could be really comprehensive.
Sucks no one ever tried that
fmac
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1d ago
For one of the most nuanced conflicts in the world, no one ever discusses it with nuance
It's hard to fault Isreal for blowing up its hostile neighbors. They're hostile after all.
But it's also hard to fault Isreal's neighbors for being mad about getting blown up.
It also feels pretty straightforward that clapping Iran will make them want nukes. They tried to toe the line and use the threat of making nukes as deterrence. Their bluff got called and they got smacked.
Next time they get a chance to achieve nuclear breakout (and there will be a next time), they won't make that mistake again.
anti_dan
1d ago
Hanania doesn't even have the benefit of being a stopped clock. He's confused and going backwards. The people who he's now decided are a threat, the so called "woke right" are not university professors, presidents, congressmen, CEOs, etc. They are frogs and eggs on X and the occasional podcast host. He's trying to re-calibrate against a basically non-existent enemy, which, even if it was to turn into a threat, would have to build steam for 30 years to get to where the woke left CURRENTLY still is with regards to power.
EverythingIsFine
Well, is eventually fine
1d ago
I was quite annoyed that I got more details quicker from the Daily Mail than I did most US outlets. Which included satellite images, though I can’t remember the provenance.
With that said I think if you look closely at the statements and rhetoric that we’ve heard so far, plus the physical facts, it seems highly likely this bombing run wasn’t enough for full destruction. They would probably need to pound it for a week to be more sure. Clearly the Trump admin is banking on Iranian peace seeking - I think they have a decent chance at it, but far from certain.
AvocadoPanic
1d ago
How long am I driving? 20 minutes in the icechest isn't too long.
A majority of that aid goes right back into our coffers, and lets the Middle East serve as a testbed for various weapons, as I understand it. ~3.8 billion annually through mostly FMF, thus mandatory to spend on US goods and services. Helps keep our defense industry active and prospering even during peace times, which is important.
I don't consider the expenditure wasteful. In fact, I'd consider it a good investment.
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