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If someone drew something that wasn't ugly on a piece of paper, what is it that makes it ugly once it's put on the human skin?

For me the human form and even a small part of it is beautiful in a very special way. I have seen many tattoos that were very well crafted or artistically composed or both, but I've never seen a single one that looked nicer than the skin it was drawn onto. Almost any sketch (even a bad one) looks nicer to me than a blank piece of paper. I fully admit that I am probably way out from the median in appreciation of human forms. So it's not that transferring the design makes it ugly (although sometimes it can too) it's more that transferring the design is a massive downgrade from what existed there previously.

Probably the only tattoo I could appreciate would be really well done permanent make up where the goal is really to emphasize or enhance the wearers physical form.

He believes society has prevented him from being a warlord, it more likely prevented him from being a slave

TBF if you're a healthy male child early in the line of succession you could likely expect a decent enough life. The probability of being a warlord or prince is miniscule, but relative to the rest of the serfs in your hamlet you'd probably be fairly high status. And, you can't miss video games and flush toilets if they don't exist yet. Probably the hedonic treadmill makes you about as happy singing work songs in the field as it does listening to bohemian rhapsody on your ipod.

The main benefits of modern life are better health and less susceptibility to violence-- both those things objectively influence your hedonic baseline. But if your aversion to violence is outweighed by your urge to commit it, and your relative status is so low you're willing yo sacrifice your health to improve it, the past starts looking a lot more appealing (To young men early in the line of succession.) I personally wouldn't make the trade, but I can see why other people would.

No. This is, however, exactly what OP is doing, only he goes to more length to obfuscate it, to the point that he fails to sneak in an actual argument. It's just words. I am smart (muh creds), others are dumb (not math creds), they're naive and get fooled because they're dumb and anthropomorphise, here are some musings on animals (I still don't see what specific cognitive achievement an orangutan can boast of, as OP doesn't bother with this), here's something about embeddings, now please pretend I've said anything persuasive about LLM intelligence. That's the worst genre of a post that this forum has to offer, it's narcissistic and time-wasting. We've had the same issue with Hlynka, some people just feel that they're entitled to post gibberish on why LLMs must be unintelligent and they endeavor to support this by citing background in math while failing to state any legible connection between their (ostensible) mathematically informed beliefs and their beliefs re LLMs. I am not sure if they're just cognitively biased in some manner or if it's their ego getting in the way. It is what it is.

Like, what is this? OP smirks as he develops this theme, so presumably he believes it to be load-bearing:

[…] Please keep this concept of "directionality" in mind as it is important to understanding how LLMs behave, and it will come up later.

[…] In addition to difficulty with numbers there is the more fundamental issue that directionality does not encode reality. The directionality of the statement "Donald Trump is the 47th President of the United States", would be identical regardless of whether Donald Trump won or lost the 2024 election. Directionally speaking there is no difference between a "real" court case and a "fictitious" court case with identical details.

The idea that there is a ineffable difference between true statements and false statements, or between hallucination and imagination is wholly human conceit. Simply put, a LLM that doesn't "hallucinate" doesn't generate text or images at all. It's literally just a search engine with extra steps.

No, seriously? How does one address this? What does the vector-based implementation of representations in LLMs have to do with the ineffable difference between truth and falsehood that people dumber than OP allegedly believe in? If the pretraining data is consistent that Trump is the 47th president, then the model would predict as much and treat it as "truth". If we introduce a "falsehood" steering vector, it would predict otherwise. The training data is not baseline reality, but neither is any learned representation including world models in our brains. What does “literally just a search engine with extra steps” add here?

This sort of talk is confused on so many levels at once that the only valid takeaway is that the author is not equipped to reason at all.

I do not obfuscate. I understand that he's trying to insult me and others, and I call him an ignorant slut without any of that cowardly nonsense, plus I make an argument. To engage more productively, I'd have had to completely reinvent his stream of subtle jabs into a coherent text he might not even agree with. I'd rather he does that on his own.

If you haven't watched it yet, I suggest give Code Geass a try. Although people often say Code Geass is actually not a real or true Mecha anime. I hate the art style and character design and I still watched the whole thing and don't regret it. It's widely considered to have one of the best endings in anime and I have to agree. Also the OST is great.

Of course, for women, tattoos do not show anything of the violent crime kind. It just likely shows more mental instability, more neuroticism, more "easiness", more chance that she's a single mom... More dysfunction. Can I prove that? No, but it's an indicator for me. They understand it too, if they're mocking you for being squares for not having them.

That’s not what they’re fantasizing about.

The poets are not fantasizing about being depressed trying to think of poems, failing, being rejected from journals, being told their poetry sucks etc. It’s a fantasy. They’re thinking about being the alpha poet who everybody adores and looks up to.

The warrior-fantasy guys are fantasizing about being Rambo, or whatever. “Against all odds Chad thundercock saved a village of poets by single handedly fighting off a barrage of barbarians all while severely injured and survived only by a thread and by pure determination” etc.

It’s not a perfect symmetrical set of fantasies because the fantasy is coming from a different ideology.

Made in Abyss

I watched the first season of this after seeing numerous recommendations along this line (are all of these reviews based on single seasons or entire series?), and my ultimate feeling was "meh". Made in Abyss presents a world in which there is a big creepy hole, and ooh, what could be inside the big creepy hole? Turns out it's big and creepy. Wow.

While it is nicely animated and soundtracked as you say, the dull approach to the story and particularly unpleasant anime degeneracy left me with little desire to continue.

Mob Psycho 100

So much better than everything else on your list I honestly have no idea

If you need to gamify something to enjoy it, then you don't actually enjoy it.

Counterpoint: Actual games.

No! Do not get me started between the difference between compulsion and fun. If you can play a game and enjoy it without any meta progression or score at all, only then do you enjoy the game. All the rest is just artifice trying to hijack your addiction centers.

I can’t think of an easier way to give away the position of your troops than having a large drone right on top of their location.

However you want. Let the voters decide which style is best. (As long as compliance with codes is determinable.)

Pretty sure you meant to write ”does not constitute”.

Vintage dollhouse does one that’s basically no screens and living like it’s 1940. There are a few that did 1990s and 1980s tech. There was a group of reinactors who did a LARP of the 17th century England, and a couple of odd ones (mostly women) doing the regency era which I think is 18th century. But the common denominator of the experience seems to be exactly that they are much more creative and able to get things done once they basically “detox” of Internet, screens and so on.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=f9mZJ9Z-mfM?si=r5aaEso6h8SdXl79

https://youtube.com/watch?v=z_ZGk-tVIUA?si=ayvCEsgMu4rjA0aZ

https://youtube.com/watch?v=J-uRFPbaKEw?si=UkxQBHSy3g2rP5Yd

These two are women living a 1940s lifestyle. The first two are Vintage dollhouse who does a lot of other reenactment work for 1940s stuff.

Yes. I'm very pedantic about my music collection and I insist on having exact dates of release. Often, though, the exact release date isn't easily available, so I have to conduct research to determine an estimated release date. If ChatGTP can imitate my research process I'll take back everything negative I ever said about it:

  • For major label albums released circa 1991 or later, an official street date should be available. This gets first priority.
  • If a release date is provided by a reputable source such as RateYourMusic, Wikipedia, or 45Cat, use that date, giving 45Cat priority.
  • If a reputable source only provides a month of release, use that as a guideline for further research, subject to change if the weight of the evidence suggests that this is incorrect.
  • For US releases from 1978 to the present, use the date of publication from the US Copyright Office website if available.
  • For US releases from 1972 to 1978, use the date of publication from the US Copyright physical indexes, images of which are available on archive.org, if available.
  • For releases prior to 1972 or are otherwise unavailable from the above sources, determine the "usual day of release" of the record label, that being the day of the week that the majority of the issues with known release dates were released. Be aware that this can change over time. If no information is available regarding the usual day of release, default to Monday.
  • If ARSA chart data for the release is available, assign the release date to the usual day of release immediately prior to the date of the chart. (ARSA is a website that compiles local charts from individual radio stations).
  • If ARSA chart data is unavailable, assign the release date to the usual day of release the week prior to the date when the release was reviewed by Billboard, first appeared in a chart, or was advertised in Billboard.
  • If ARSA and Billboard data are both available, use the earlier date (ARSA will almost always be earlier unless there was a substantial delay between release and initial charting).
  • If neither ARSA nor Billboard data is available, use a similar system with any other trade publication.
  • If no trade publication or chart data is available, determine the order of release based on catalog number. Assume that the items are released sequentially and are evenly spaced. Use known release dates (or release months) to calculate a reasonable date of release based on available information, including year of release (if known), month of release (if known) and usual day of release.
  • If none of the above can be determined, make a reasonable estimate based on known information.

The following caveats also apply:

*For non-US releases, domestic releases often trailed their foreign counterparts by several months. Any data derived from US sources must take this into account when determining if the proposed estimate is reasonable.

  • If the date of recording is known, any estimated release date must take into consideration a reasonable amount of time between recording and release based on what was typical of the era.
  • For independent releases, dates of release from Bandcamp may be used provided they don't conflict with known information (i.e. sometimes Bandcamp release dates will use the date of upload, or the date of a CD reissue).

There's a ton more I could put here if I really wanted to get into the weeds, but I don't think ChatGTP can do what I've asked of it thus far.

I'm not taking sides on you/Dase vs Tequila (I've already registered my opinion) but on the tone of the disagreement.

If you are losing your cool in an argument, back off and cool off. I say that knowing that I am not perfect either and don't always follow that advice, but we both know that's what needs to happen.

I disagreed with the percentiles and that global ranking mattered, not your reasoning for why to engage in activities. I didn't mean to say you are deluded, only that people reasoning about these things often are (like guys at the gym or whatever).

People didn't give a shit about hobbies before the internet either and can't tell a 90th percentile from a 99.9th percentile anyway.

Like artistic drawings or AutoCAD style?

It was surprisingly difficult for multiple reasons: your heart doesn’t differentiate between ‘low stress’ and ‘depressed heart rate because you’re recovering from a massive exertion’, or ‘high stress’ vs ‘happy drinking with friends’.

Does your smart watch track heart rate variability and blood oxygenation? I think my garmin watch is pretty decent at knowing when I'm stressed emotionally vs when I'm stressed metabolically. Of course, the little suggestions it gives me are kind of useless ("take a breath", "go on a walk", buddy if I was the kind of person to do those things I wouldn't need you to tell me to do them.) But I think the problem doesn't lie with either the sensors or suggestions, but with a lack of an effective punishment/reward scheme.

...okay, I'll admit it. I just want a robot mommy that pats my head when I'm a good boy and spanks my ass when I'm a REALLY good boy.

More effort than just a laundry list of strawmen, please. This isn't an argument or an answer, it's just "My outgroup is always evil and lying about everything."

I'm going to chime in here in favor of Dase, with my own mod-hat off.

TequilaMockingbird hasn't been operating in good faith. It doesn't exhaust my sense of charity to believe that he started this essay in good faith, but all of his behavior since strikes me as being to the contrary. I'm guilty of losing my cool, because my own tolerance for such behavior only goes so far.

At the risk of being inflammatory, I think accusations of Jane being an "ignorant slut" are at least partially excusable if Jane is, in fact, being ignorant, and a slut. (Accounting for subjective variance in definitions and accusations of ignorance or sluttiness)

Is truth an absolute defense on the Motte? Probably not. I'm sure there are more polite ways to couch that claim. I've personally warned Dase before for being too touchy and acerbic, and yet I find myself pleading for leniency here. Feel free to discount this on the basis of a clear conflict of interest, but I'm saying it nonetheless.

If you need to gamify something to enjoy it, then you don't actually enjoy it.

Counterpoint: Actual games.

Perhaps what we are discussing is more "the feeling of progress." Newb gainz are fun. Novelty is fun. Plateaus are not.

Every once in a while, I stop lifting say squats for a while. When I start back up, it's fun to rapidly increase. Then I plateau. Rinse, wash, repeat. (This is fine because I'm focusing on running for the time being. Where ... I'm making progress.)

Having bucket lists for hikers/explorers is a fun way to force oneself outside of one's comfort zone. I like hiking. Having a goal makes it channeled towards something concrete.

There's more than one way to enjoy various hobbies, in other words. Camping can be luxurious or hardcore. Cheap or expensive. Hiking, running, lifting, shooting, offroading, drones, car stuff, music, etc. all have multiple levels one can find a sweet spot.

Also most people like some kind of diversity, so switching and taking breaks is pretty normal.

but the guy seemed so concerned about bagging an extra peak that he was willing to risk pissing of a friend who gave him free passes to a band he really liked.

Sounds like a rational agent trying to maximize utility between two competing goals and willing to take risks.

What’s stopping the development of drones with video recording that feeds into AI and surveils for incoming enemy drones? Ai should be able to determine if something is a drone from visual signature + movement.

Because surveillance drones are small and practically invisible in a wide angle view from distance. Realtime (or near realtime) computer vision operates at surprisingly low resolutions and only ”zooms in” once it has identified the area that has the target object.

I did a quick test with a camera and assuming a 20 MP sensor (possibly slightly optimistic) and typical DJI drone lens, a drone size target at 100 meters away would fill roughly an area around 20x20 pixels size - and that’s when fully digitally zoomed in!

You know how the stereotypical bird photographer carries a huge ass lens that resembles a bazooka in size? There’s a reason for that and it’s called ”small target far away” (except no bird photographer would imagine getting a good shot from 100 meters away even with a massive lens)

One thing I’ve found absolutely fascinating about these sorts of “live like it’s X year” experiments is just how surprising and even interesting the “analog” real world is once your brain adjusts to it.

Any links to examples? How far back are some of these people successfully resetting their clocks, as it were?

Have you heard of the types of fun? If not, See: https://essentialwilderness.com/type-1-2-and-3-fun/

As a descriptive generalization, all complex activities are composed of all three types of fun. The exact ratio of each type of fun changes activity by activity and person by person. Typically speaking, everyone wants to maximize type 1 fun and minimize type 3 fun. In the meantime, they will tolerate type 2 fun in proportion to they ability to delay gratification as an investment to produce more type 1 fun in the future.

Now, gamification, in this context, is best understood as a means to transmute type 3 fun into type 2 fun. The mechanism by which this happens is through providing consistent feedback and rewards so that the gamer later associated a particular misery with a positive outcome. In games, for example, killing the first 3 orcs in a questline might be type one fun, but killing the next 197 would be type 3 fun if it weren't for the xp and gold you get at the end. Similarly, in martial arts you might enjoy the first minute of getting punched in the stomach while being in horse stance, but you're not going to enjoy the next five unless you come to associate it with improving your capabilities and social status.

Gamification isn't always-- or even usually-- helpful. If an activity has a super high proportion of type 1 fun, you just do it to do it. And generally people don't have many issues doing activities they feel are predominantly type 2 fun, though they might have to get motivated first. I'll procrastinate doing my laundry, but I don't need to gamify it before I do it-- I know exactly how much I like clean clothes. Meanwhile, people should and do avoid activities that are mostly type 3 fun. I think I'd briefly enjoy falling out of a building, but I would definitely hate hitting the ground.

Where gamification helps most is at the margins, when an activity is favorably disposed toward types 1 and 2 intellectually, but at any given moment can feel emotionally tilted toward type 3. Think of this as the cold lake effect (you know you'll have fun if you just take the plunge, but you can't help but tiptoe in miserably). So if you're looking for it in mountan biking, don't expect to find it everywhere. As a hobby, mountain biking is probably dominated by the kind of people who find it type 1 fun. But if you find someone that's always a little reluctant to get on the trails. And seems mostly motivated by buying new gear, obsessively tracking their health statistics, and posting images of themselves completing on difficult trails... That's what gamification looks like for mountain biking.

The AI does allow for an automated police state at scale.

Works for the internet police mods too.

Legibility comes with trade offs, and limiting freedom is usually one of them.

I believe there's going to be a whole slew of court cases and societal fights over this kind of thing. In the US, at least. Places like the UK seem to be ok with police state mods.

Protip: If you ever find yourself out of medication and the pharmacy says they are out of stock of your prescription, tell them that you are about to call your insurance company to inform them that their in-network pharmacy is unable to provide nessesary medical care to patients. Suddenly, "it's 3-4 days out," and, "this is just our procedure," becomes, "I'll check the stockroom," and "we'll have that ready for you sir," in about 2 minutes. Dangerous professional voice is a superpower. Obviously you must only use this power for good.