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FiveHourMarathon
Wawa Nationalist
4hr ago
Very. A large amount of his personal staff seemed to act as pimps at various times. Which is, you know, odd.
remzem
4hr ago
Seems like the numbers were exaggerated with 2 of the attacks randomly detonating en route and another getting blocked by random civilians. Maybe 10 destroyed / damaged. Still pretty crazy though, not an attack that will change the outcome of the war but it could lead to countries tearing up / rethinking a lot of current nuke agreeements.
More and more the deep bombings are just drone swarms. With a record of over 400 lancets launched in one day last week and newer jet propelled variations using up more AA. The glidebombs doing most of the work on the front line are carried by smaller aircraft. It seems like this was purely (if it had been more successful) intended to try to provoke a nuclear response. Force Russia into a lose-lose situation where it either makes a major escalation, which they could use to try and get western boots on the ground. Or if Russia doesn't respond show the western powers that it's safe to greenlight deep strikes that slowly chip away at Russia's nuclear deterrence. As that is obviously the main reason the west won't get involved, everyone loses a nuclear war between NATO and Russia, but NATO wins a conventional war (unless China steps in).
I guess they've recognized they have no chance without European troops so they're going for crazier shit.
ThisIsSin
Cainanites and Abelists
4hr ago
Most of what makes modern politics/political actors difficult to understand these days is not understanding that classical liberalism is [now] a "conservative" position, and taking what groups call themselves at face value rather than thinking about it for 5 seconds and figuring out that yes, actually, progressives are the most conservative movement today (in the "develop nothing ever, be safety-obsessed all the time, impose nonsensical social controls out the ass, sanction sex, hate the young, old women > young men" senses that popularly characterize conservatism).
Not that we haven't tried- "right is the new left" was nearly 10 years ago now (and people still just don't get it)- but ultimately the failure to understand who and what the groups are (and the groups themselves don't help either, to be fair, and this is mostly an advantage to progressives/the media's faction) will destroy anyone's ability to think logically about politics.
Haidt's 6 Foundations apply just as well (or even more) to the average progressive than they do to the average traditionalist, but as soon as you say the C-word, people start thinking they only apply to Boomercons and they shut right down.
AlexanderTurok
Alt-MSNBC
4hr ago
which is that one faction has seized all the power and escaped all accountability for its wielding.
Republicans have managed to get elected roughly half the time, so it seems like it's you who's trying to escape all accountability here. If you say they couldn't do anything because of progressive Republicans, well, maybe you should have won more elections.
And it's not like the Right has no successes. Desegregation busing was heavily limited. Welfare reform in the 1990s. You even managed to overturn Roe v Wade and ban abortion in many states, which did nothing to create the "community, personal development, support networks, family formation, long-termer preferences," etc. that Christian conservatives tell us their ideology brings, but you did do it.
remzem
4hr ago
If i were a US rival i'd be buying up lots of farmland around US military bases and industry. They seemed to be using cellular networks though, not ai.
AvocadoPanic
4hr ago
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roystgnr
4hr ago
Well, that would certainly be easier to square with the need to protect the remaining non-eliminated bombers.
Thanks. Do you have a citation for that?
Botond173
4hr ago
I don’t have half as responsible a job as JFK, and I can’t find time to golf let alone to keep a half dozen mistresses happy and on tap. Where did he find the time? Given, he was so hot, with so much social proof, that the seduction itself doesn’t seem to have been difficult, but still: keeping them all reasonably happy, keeping track of who they were, finding time to fuck them all? Where did he find the time?
Didn't he have a large number of trusted staffers?
ArjinFerman
Tinfoil Gigachad
4hr ago
So? That was from Keith Woods' post, who isn't here to converse with (to my knowledge), while TheDag also cited Trump, a far more well-known figure. Is there a particular reason why I must now educate myself on some dude I never heard of, instead of responding to the broader points using the person I have actually heard about as a reference?
HereAndGone
4hr ago
Okay, so it's the Theosophists are the bad guys in the secret global occult plot stakes this time. Unusual, I don't generally see them hauled out (usually conspiracy theorists stick to the Rosicrucians).
He's right in that Theosophy does have its own interpretation of Jesus, angels, etc. which diverges in very large part from traditional Christian beliefs, and that they do like to celebrate traditional festivals (like Michaelmas) with their own spin.
And there has been a resurgence in devotion to St. Michael, generally with the promulgation of the prayer and sort of in a "right wing young guy warrior wannabe" style devotion. A modern American Catholic revival of muscular Christianity, as it were, as well as a sort of adoption of the Evangelical notion of demons under the beds everywhere, though that leans more to the Rad Trads.
Hmm. Thanks for the link, I'm always interested in strange new weirdness I haven't seen before!
Hoffmeister25
American Bukelismo Enthusiast
4hr ago
I wish I knew who the hell that was.
Literally the guy the OP was mostly about. You know, the guy referenced several times by name in the post you replied to.
ABigGuy4U
4hr ago
Literally any kind of weapon. Small arms, artillery systems, cruise missiles, ships, heavy bombers. Every time there’s a new weapons system delivered to Ukraine it’s “Ukraine has some fun new toys to play with” or “Operation Spiderweb destroyed a lot of Russia’s toys”. Once you notice it, you notice that they do it constantly and it’s really started grinding my gears.
such an entity would need to devote a very onerous amount of money, time, and resources [on her]
Feature, not a bug. Plus, all the boys and men whose lives are graced by her presence should Have Some Empathy and take her accusations on the chin like a Real Man (where each accusation needs to be thoroughly investigated by The Authorities).
It reminds me of a Reddit thread about a female illegal immigrant committing a DUI homicide (no, not the jetski incident, a different female illegal immigrant homicide while operating a motor vehicle likely under the influence).
The perpetrator was sentenced to multiple years in prison, and a Redditor bemoaned that we don’t treat Persons of Justice Involvement (especially those of Color) with enough Compassion, and it would be better for Society to give her a second chance instead of ruining two lives over a little DUI whoopsie while waiting for her citizenship documentation. A wrongthinker replied that it is awfully coincidental that what’s promoted as good for society always sounds suspiciously similar to what would be good for the criminal(s) under discussion.
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
4hr ago
Could you provide additional context? Is this about drones?
TowardsPanna
4hr ago
strenuous disagreement >:|
dr_analog
razorboy
4hr ago
I am unlikely to. But, why would Glenn Greenwald being into pervy stuff matter if I was?
Is the implication that if I tried to do anything about Epstein, powers that be would hack my pervy stuff and leak it too?
ABigGuy4U
4hr ago
Why do Redditors compulsively refer to weapons of war designed to maim and kill people as “toys”?
FCfromSSC
Nuclear levels of sour
4hr ago
Write like everyone is reading and you want them to be included in the discussion.
Young people working starter jobs around town in stores and businesses knstead of shitskins.
You are allowed to express racist sentiments here, but we do ask for more effort than slurs as punctuation. Your log is a bunch of warnings and a tempban, and this post indicates that those warnings are not penetrating. I'm banning you for three days this time; other mods feel free to lengthen if it seems appropriate.
AvocadoPanic
4hr ago
You'd like a 25 point plan that outlines a positive vision for a unified nation under conservative principles?
SSCReader said it was 56%?
My source is the CNN exit poll as reported on Wikipedia. I'm happy to defer to someone with a better data source.
The Catalist report has a reputation for being more accurate than exit polls, but the free online version doesn't include the sex/age crosstabs. Matt Yglesias did a Substack post based on what is presumably the paid version of the report and says that the big picture was a mostly-uniform swing apart from the big swing to Trump among Hispanics and (to a lesser extent) Asians.
That's fine. I just have issues with calling that "greater problems attracting young people".
I don't think we disagree here.
ABigGuy4U
5hr ago
Conservatism is not an ideology. It's an orientation. Moreover, it's an orientation against a reference point.
One thing I love about the 1991 August Coup in the Soviet Union is that it’s about the only time and place in history where you could be a Conservative Communist.
ABigGuy4U
5hr ago
Well, there’s definitely a strong belief that the elites are evil - ridiculously, cartoonishly evil, to the point that they poison the water and the skies, intentionally derail trains, and start wars just to make common people suffer.
That’s not just a modern American phenomenon. If you screw people over long enough they will eventually think you’re doing it on purpose. In the the few years before the French Revolution there was a persistent conspiracy theory among the poor residents of Paris that the food shortages were an intentional plot to starve the French people. In Russia in 1916 there were endemic rumors that the Tzarina was a German spy who was intentionally sabotaging the war effort.
hydroacetylene
5hr ago
American conservatives do not excel as defenders of boomer rights, though. Literally, democrats are better at that. Home valuations are consistently much less ridiculous in red states, Trump doesn’t want to cut social security but democrats are the ones wanting to drive down the cost of labor(which retirees consume) and expand Medicare.
I’ll commend you for cleverness, inasmuch as you added enough new material/adaptation to the modern American context to the 25 points of the NSDAP to prevent them from being immediately recognizable to people who weren’t already in on the joke.
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