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My opinion is all these folks should exit public service, if they are in it, for 5 years or so, to mature.

In a perfect world, where this is a society-wide norm, maybe.

What base rate of private group chat leaks should we expect and why? Which groups are most and least likely to have leaks?

I barely remember who this guy is, does it really mean anything if his project tanks?

I argue yes. This is the Culture War and who gets to make cultural artifacts with massive amounts of money involved is a major front.

It's my assertion that Ansari is a good measuring stick precisely because his offense was relatively trivial. If the film succeeds, MeToo in the mainstream narrative is effectively dead. If it fails, at a minimum Ansari is the new line. The film itself is allegedly around average, underperformance is likely a strong signal from the distributed voting mechanism that is ticket sales that doing as Aziz does is still verboten. Doing better than bad would also be a signal. Producers and distributors react accordingly. The media environment changes.

The thing is, my workouts if anything became less intense than I did for the last few years - more emphasis on the resistance training than cardio than before - not related to the weight loss effort, just a coincidence that I switched a month or so prior. But I tried to do diets before (keto, zone, etc.) and it never worked. I mean, if worked for a short while but I was miserable and couldn't sustain it. This regime I think I could sustain pretty much indefinitely if I needed to - though I probably will try to relax some of the limitations if I reach my weight target.

I know 5.7 Hb1Ac is not too bad, but it had been creeping up for a while (and other issues been popping out too) and given my genetics, I'd rather not play with fire here.

I believe I speak for much of the community here when I say the answer to every one of your questions is: ”Yes”.

Novel information? On my internet?

Episode I was almost entirely a waste: it introduces Padme and Anakin, and shows Palpatine gaining power. Nothing else in that movie was important for later films.

There are a couple of other little bits - starting Anakin's apprenticeship under an inauspicious star, with him too old and Obi-Wan barely even a Jedi, and showing that this is The Old Republic and things are expected to End Well. The second of those is very important, and is the big obstacle to any attempt to integrate TPM more closely into the prequels. You could extend the romance, and possibly even some of Anakin's time as a Padawan, into TPM, but the main plot mostly has to be standalone because it has to End Well.

this is insane, I may know you. We invested in a healthcare startup in Miami that's not doing too hot. Small world.

I was the one who wrote the Hasan post and nowhere in it did I allege that Democrats approved of or condoned such behaviour. Twitch drama may be lowbrow, but it is undoubtedly culture war. Hasan's bad behaviour - not just rhetoric, mind you - reflects only on himself.

If my brother has gone crazy then it is my duty to do something about it, whether or not my neighbor is dealing with his crazy brother.

I'll take another stab at this, and try to answer the point you were actually making. Going with your analogy:

  • If I run into my crazy brother and my neighbor's crazy brother kicking the shit out of each other, knowing that either of them is crazy enough to turn on me if I come close, or hell that they might even team up against me, if I get between them, oh and there's my neighbor watching the whole thing from afar, not make a single movement or giving any hint he will help, but expecting I will do something about it, do I still have a moral duty to intervene?
  • If I run into my crazy brother kicking the shit out of my neighbor, but the last 3 times it was the neighbor's crazy brother kicking the shit out of me, and the neighbor's intervention consisted of saying "ok let's go home now" after his brother beat me to a bloody pulp, do I still have a moral duty to intervene then? In this analogy we are assuming there's no police or higher authority to appeal to.

Is there any particular reason you're posting about this, and then ignoring anyone who raises points that make your entire thesis look it relies on manipulating information, if not outright lying?

Yeah, there was a time when people would discuss it so often, the more left-leaning mods decided to ban the entire topic for a month. Partly a result of 1-2 posters having a hobby horse, and partly of the more left-wing posters not being satisfied with making moral arguments against it, insisting that it must be false, and stepping on rake after rake in the process.

Most people are happy to leave well enough alone, if you don't press the subject.

I am team: "This is different, and is still kinda bad."

My opinion is all these folks should exit public service, if they are in it, for 5 years or so, to mature. There are plenty of jobs at advertising agencies for Coca Cola, and THOSE companies should vigorously recruit these fellows because that is what they would do in a free market based on their comedic stylings and ability to understand the dark comedy of the modern youth.

Then in 5 years these bad jokes should be forgiven and they can do whatever.

This is, of course, a very high standard in comparison to the left, but it is what I prefer. Unfortunately, it also requires leftish cooperation because most ad places are run by the exact sort of people fake-outraged by this. So they kinda have to give up something to be reasonable.

I do, at the end of the day the individual actors are responsible for themselves. The average non Nazi conservative is not a Nazi because some other conservatives who are not them are Nazis. Many conservatives have actively condemned the growing nazi problem even, I linked some in the post!

Have any of these people even been credibly accused of being Nazis as opposed to making jokes that offend people who are always on the lookout for Nazis? Its not a joke for me to assert that I have been hearing warning about the "growing influence of Nazism on the right" since I was in 4th grade, and likely the only reason I dont remember hearing about it before then is because I was not listening. To quote the personality who helped found this forum in his better days, "You are still crying wolf"

This also isn't, by contrast, people openly calling for Nazism, nor is it high level politicians calling for political violence, or materially supporting it. It is basically an assortment of group chats by low level people. So we are trying to match like for like, when in reality we are matching pawns with queens.

The arguments I've seen are "he says they're good with money, which is stereotyping", and "he's encouraging people to hate them, both by generic bigotry and by doing things like recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, which made a lot of people angry and therefore more likely to attack Jews."

The first one seems more than plausible (Trump, a bog-standard bigot who agrees with stereotypes? Say it ain't so!), even if it's a bit milquetoast; the second is... IMO one hell of a reach.

That said, one person's "ragebait" is another person's outside-the-local-overton-window argument.

I expect that a post consisting of four twitter links and a "doesn't this prove all my outgroup are just the worst?" would invite a warning for being obviously boo outgroup antagonism. Like, I can imagine a post talking about Hasan Piker's scandal over torturing his dog and how doesn't this prove Democrats have a psychopath problem? But I can't imagine the community norm thinking that was a good faith contribution.

Failing to engage in good faith is another matter

More concerned about this as a consistent pattern. If it's on the radar, I'm happy enough.

If can israel deny a genocide with 4k video proof

That looks like the lead-in to a statement you'd see from someone pro-Palestinian on Reddit, which does not usually line up directly with the far right (who I believe want everyone in the Levant to lose).

Goes back WAY further than that, to the days of Muhammad.

It's been noted and he's already gotten a couple of warnings. That said, one person's "ragebait" is another person's outside-the-local-overton-window argument. We're not going to mod someone for being aggravating and unpopular. Failing to engage in good faith is another matter, but we're not mind readers.

without a community of noted race scientists like the Motte to further radicalize me

I feel like I showed up to this site too late and missed all of this because I keep seeing people make side references to this/HBD but no one ever actually talks about it, they just talk about talking about it.

My understanding is that the Muslim/Jew blood feud goes back to the Zionist project (A Jewish diaspora was more-or-less tolerated by most Muslim kingdoms/empires until then). So we're talking 1920s or so, after Mr. Hitler was an adult

It seems safe to assume that sending multiple GOP congressional offices American flags with "optical illusion" swastikas embedded in them is the action of someone who dislikes Republicans and probably associates them with Nazism. The same way that protestors with signs coupling Bush or Trump with Nazi imagery are virtually always anti-Republican, while protestors combining Obama with Nazi imagery are anti-Democrat, except even more so because of the aspect of deception and trying to produce negative headlines about the targets. So how is it indicative of "the embedded antisemitic and pro nazi rhetoric in lower level staffers", rather than the rhetoric of the person who sent it?

Hey, while you're here I'd like to gesture vaguely in the direction of this entire thread. It's actually pretty well constructed ragebait, slinking right under the rules. I admit I got baited. There's been an uptick in this recently, entirely from two posters, and they seem to be refining the schtick. If this kind of post (especially with the grade of replies from OP) is going to fly, then I expect we'll rapidly descend into just a pure shitflinging forum. FFS, most of the OP is just links to twitter posts.

Is there a single line here that seems intended to shed light, instead of generate heat?

Perhaps the best example of this mentality from the great Ye

https://youtube.com/watch?v=oDuxP2vnWNk

I barely remember who this guy is, does it really mean anything if his project tanks?