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Shrike
4m ago
We also have to take into account that none of the accounts of Jesus we have are even claimed to be first-hand accounts
This definitely isn't true!
Even setting aside the authenticity of the Gospels for the sake of argument, (and while I am not familiar with all of the fanfic-tier works, my understanding are that it's generally pretty easy to separate the fanfic-tier stuff from the canonical works due to anachronisms and such) Paul claims to have had a firsthand encounter with Christ and from what I understand mainstream academia typically recognizes many of the Pauline letters as authentic and very early dated.
See for example 1st Corinthians, which as I understand is generally believed to be genuine and originally written about twenty – thirty years after Christ's death, and in which Paul specifically claims to have met Christ (1 Corinthians 15:9).
Some Roman guy writing centuries later recounted Jesus's execution as a fact
This also isn't a remotely accurate description of the historical evidence at play. Here's a short list of non-Christians who wrote about pretty unambiguously about Christ within a single century of His death:
- Josephus (the exact original passage is disputed but it is generally agreed that he references Christ)
- Pliny the Younger (referencing the worship of "Christ as a god" around 110 AD)
- Tacitus references Christ's death at Pilate's hands in his history written around 116 AD
Before 200 AD Christians were a significant enough phenomenon that a Greek playwright wrote a parodic play featuring them. It's pretty clear that Christianity wasn't something that got dreamed up a few centuries after the fact – Romans and Greeks were writing letters and plays that display a clear familiarity with Christians and their doctrines well before that time, and we have some early Christian inscriptions as well that rule that out.
And of course this is all without reference to Christian primary sources, such as the Pauline letters (as I mentioned) or the Didache that are believed to be written relatively recently after Christ's death.
cjet79
7m ago
I admittedly laughed when I saw the Trump in a pope outfit and a headline about what he said.
Hard to explain humor. It was just someone ridiculous doing something ridiculous.
I can also understand that plenty of people might not find it funny at all.
And of course, now kids are going online and seeing all kinds of stuff definitely not suitable for them at that age (or even any age) and it's pushing back expectations of sexual activity earlier and earlier. The notion that you should have a boyfriend/girlfriend at 13 would have been "what the hell?" in my day, now it's increasingly getting to be "well duh, they were fucking since they were 12".
Well, not quite that bad: 15 seems to be the average age for sexual activity while 13 is for viewing porn.
FtttG
12m ago
110k words on my NaNoWriMo project. Did less work on it over the weekend than I would've liked, as I was busy with another project whose deadline is coming up soon.
Corvos
19m ago
“Everyone’s speculating about who it’s going to be. But there’s one guy you never considered…”
WandererintheWilderness
21m ago
I think polyamory works best if everybody involved is bisexual, and therefore everyone in the polycule can loosely be dating everybody else.
faul_sname
Fuck around once, find out once. Do it again, now it's science.
30m ago
Hey! You're just pretending to be ChatGPT—I can tell by the way your text is.
I told my boyfriend to wake up my husband and explain to him what was going on.
And today I finally understood the meaning of this verse in the Gospel of Matthew:
Truly, I say to you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah than for that town.
The only thing I can think of is that Dear Love Husband isn't 100% sure the kid is his, so he's letting Boyfriends A and B pick up the slack, and they feel the same ("it might or might not be my kid, no need to knock myself out about this"). This is why you have your mother and sisters around for the birth of your child, not the husband/boyfriend/guy you picked up and banged in that shopping mall parking lot.
Oh boy, that article is an entire trip around the solar system. That woman sounds like she did approximately zero preparation reading up on what would happened during labour and delivery, what she should do, etc. She's kinda blaming the hospital, but I bet the hospital imagined "this is a grown-ass woman having a baby, presumably she has her shit together". They weren't expecting her to be trailing three separate guys who couldn't be arsed to figure out "should I get food for the woman having a baby?" or doing anything like "stick around and be helpful", plus she wanted her Ritalin in the middle of delivery? Yeah, no, that's not gonna happen.
The type of person who's on Ritalin for the ADHD (read: to help her push her grades up) and then of course she's on Soylent and gabapentin and coffee and and and... I'm surprised the hospital didn't just leave her in the corridor to get on with things seeing as how she took no responsibility at all in finding out what the hell she should be doing when having a baby. "Oh, you mean I can't get my venti soy latte espresso while my baby is in the birth canal? how unfair!"
full awareness of the people who had surrounded and outnumbered me, who did not seem to deal with me as an intelligent subject
...If I could do it over, I would argue hard to take Ritalin (which would have bought me 3 hours of physical energy) and gabapentin (which would have halted the serious anxiety I was having, and would not have put me to sleep if I’d also had Ritalin). I had both in my backpack. I had been taking both about once every 7-10 days throughout pregnancy with my psychiatrist’s blessing.
Gosh, they didn't treat her like an intelligent being? Could it possibly be because she didn't act like one? I mean, with the amount of preparation for the entire birth that she and the Three Stooges showed, why would they think she didn't have the brains God gave a doorknob? And newsflash, your psychiatrist is not an obstetrician, they don't and shouldn't be telling you what you can take during pregnancy, her psychiatrist probably just agreed "yeah, whatever" because otherwise she would have bitched and moaned unbearably about it.
What are the risks of using methylphenidate in pregnancy?
Some studies have suggested that there is an increased chance of miscarriage and some types of heart defect in the baby following use of methylphenidate in early pregnancy. Overall, it is very clear that most babies exposed to methylphenidate in the womb do not have a birth defect. It is also uncertain if these problems are due to methylphenidate itself, or to underlying factors that are more common in women taking methylphenidate.
Methylphenidate and similar drugs have been linked to reduced growth of the baby in the womb. This is thought to be because they can affect blood flow through the placenta.
Methylphenidate can potentially cause short-term withdrawal symptoms in the newborn baby if taken in the weeks before delivery. For this reason, a baby may be monitored for some time after birth to check for symptoms such as jitteriness, difficulty sleeping and breathing problems.
Gabapentin and pregnancy
Gabapentin is not generally recommended in pregnancy as there is not enough information about whether it's safe for your baby.
However, from the small amount of information that is available, there's no clear evidence that it's harmful. It should only be taken if the benefits of the medicine outweigh the risks.
If you take gabapentin for epilepsy, it's important that this is well treated during pregnancy, as seizures can harm you and your baby. Keep taking gabapentin, but talk to your doctor urgently. They may recommend you change to a different medicine.
If you're trying to get pregnant or have become pregnant while taking gabapentin, it is recommended to take a high dose of folic acid (5mg a day). You can get this from your doctor or midwife.
Ideally you'll take high dose folic acid for 3 months before you start trying to get pregnant and for the first 12 weeks of pregnancy. Do not worry if you have not taken it before you get pregnant, but start taking it as soon as possible once you know that you are pregnant. It helps your baby to grow normally.
If you take gabapentin around the time of giving birth, your baby may need extra monitoring for a few days after they're born. This is because they may have withdrawal symptoms from gabapentin.
We do not know what the long term effects of taking gabapentin in pregnancy may be on childhood learning and development. For safety, you'll usually be advised to take it only if the benefits of the medicine outweigh the risks. Talk to your doctor about the benefits and risks.
BurdensomeCount
Messenger Status: Shot
36m ago
Bahamas f*ck house
Wait what?
HereAndGone
39m ago
Some of the stories about polycules I see online are not about the happy, well-off couples having sexy new partners like the NYT lady with her book. There's a lot of "I'm disabled, neurodivergent, and unemployed, and without my polycule I wouldn't have people to help me pay my bills and look after me when I'm ill".
For some (a lot?) of people, it's not about sexy new partners but a support system of "I help you out when you can't walk because your joints are flaring up, you help me out when I'm having one of my mental health crises, the others chip in to buy groceries and pay rent, etc."
As ever, this comedy song is apposite more than it should be.
FistLast2
41m ago
My response is basically "why can't you take a joke?".
What' the joke? Haha, Trump in a Pope outfit? Forget about offense, for the moment. Where is the humor even hypothetically supposed to be coming from?
HereAndGone
46m ago
You know what helps there? Not therapy. It's finding a hot girlfriend to be poly with, and spending all your time and attention with her, and telling your current girlfriend "wow I'm so glad you persuaded me to open up our relationship, New Partner is so fantastic!" If current girlfriend gets jealous, you can lecture her about how she needs to get over this and maybe she should try therapy?
If she's genuinely a believer in polyamory, she'll be happy for you or try to persuade herself that she should be happy with the situation. If she's having fun with the new hot guy but didn't think you'd find a possible replacement for her, she'll either try to talk you back into "maybe we should be monogamous" or you break up and both of you can now be happy with your hot new replacement partners.
Joyful
49m ago
Looking at the people on the conservative side, the loudest champions of a traditional moral order seem to be grifters, or at least hypocrites where they say one thing, and do another in their personal lives.
This is boo outgroup.
I'd say the loudest social media voices right now are Matt Walsh and Ben Shapiro. Who specifically do you mean are hypocrites and grifters?
Hypocrisy has always been a lazy accusation. Better to be a person who believes there should be a standard and personally fails to meet it than someone who rejects all standards.
HereAndGone
52m ago
Not even then; being the mother of the current sultan was highly influential and powerful position, so all the wives/concubines competed to make sure their son was the chosen heir. This included killing off other wives/concubines, killing off their kids, engaging in conspiracies, faking conspiracies to get rid of rivals, etc.
Being the favourite of the sultan or emperor meant the concubine or wife's family cashed in on the opportunity to gain power, status and wealth; in the Tudor court of Henry VIII, the great families jockeyed to put their daughters before him as possible mistresses and potential queens, and their fall could be as spectacular as their rise.
An ambitious concubine could even work her way up to being empress in her own right.
So it was never as simple as "guy on top gets to bang all the hot chicks", and even under systems where men could have multiple wives, that didn't prevent jealousy or power struggles - see the story of Dhruva, famous devotee of Vishnu. Even though he was heir to the throne, his father's preferred second wife drove him away in favour of her son.
Jiro
1hr ago
To which his response is, basically, "why can't you take a joke?"
My response is basically "why can't you take a joke?".
As an anti-Catholic act, posting a picture of yourself as the pope is pretty weaksauce. It isn't even saying anything bad about the pope, except maybe "the Pope is only human", which a lot of people do sincerely believe, and Trump doesn't seem to be a Catholic.
This... led to them ending their support for Trump's antics. (I happen to be one of them.)
I'm inherently suspicious of "this minor act is why I can't possibly support this politician any more!" Yes, there's such a thing as a last straw, but something like this shouldn't be a last straw unless there are substantial unrelated reasons why you no longer support him. If that picture is the major reason why you don't support him, you're way, way, overreacting.
FtttG
1hr ago
couples/thruples? what do we call these associations?
I believe "polycule" is the preferred term.
WandererintheWilderness
1hr ago
I actually think the thing about the selection is overstated. Most of the "apocryphal gospels" significantly postdate the four canonical ones; the process of eliminating them wasn't much more than "go back to the earliest available sources and discount the dodgy latter-day additions", without much consideration to their contents per se. (I'll grant you that John's Apocalypse being included, out of any number of visionary Gnostic-adjacent ravings, is a bit of a fluke.)
SkoomaDentist
1hr ago
I finished Mother of Learning
I'd like to recommend nobody103's next serial, Zenith of Sorcery but I just can't do that in good faith. We're now two years into writing with 23 published chapters and it barely feels like the plot is maybe about get started within the next half dozen chapters. If we're lucky.
So what I'll instead do is recommend you take a look at Void Herald's writings, particularly The Perfect Run. There's a reason it's #2 on Royal Road right below Mother of Learning. If you want more fantasy bent with comedy, the same author's Vainqueur The Dragon is a hoot but you'll have to do some googling to find the full story as pdf.
Tanista
1hr ago
Habermas' criteria for his minimal facts is that "vast majority of even critical scholars must recognize the occurrence’s historical nature"
I can see how later Gospel material doesn't meet that standard while Paul's vaguer mentions of appearances right alongside his talk of persecuting the Church would. There's the naturalist assumption. And critical scholars accept at least seven undisputed Pauline epistles and no Gospel's attribution to an Apostle or follower of one has the same level of consensus AFAIK. So someone would likely have quibbled about the "apostle's claims" while Paul's own claims of a vision combined with vague claims about appearances to Peter, James and the 500...maybe not.
He's just being conservative I think.
sarker
It isn't happening, and if it is, it's a bad thing
1hr ago
I recently came across this article that really cemented your view for me.
This woman lives with her husband and two side pieces and she's on her own for a startling amount of time while she's giving birth. Her husband is in no rush to make it to the delivery room:
My water broke at 5am. Plot-relevantly, I had gone to sleep only two hours prior...
I woke up my husband as the very last step – I went into his room and said “my beautiful love,” at 5:30am, which we both know full well is a crime. By nature, we keep similar hours.
He emitted a quarter-awake “you are inflicting horrible crimes on me and you are not forgiven” moan.
When I said, “I think my water broke,” he sort of flipped. Like a pancake but on its own.
“Oh!” he said.
“Nothing exciting is going to happen for a while. So I think you should get more sleep. Partners A and C are driving me to the hospital and getting me checked in.”
Later that day:
In the window where I should have eaten, the boyfriends who had brought me to the hospital had gone home to sleep, and my husband was on his way.
I had the bagel because my husband was near a bagel place and mentioned he could pick some up. It sounded like a treat, so I said yes. At the time he and I were coordinating on what he should pick up, my contractions were very slow, or hadn’t started yet. I had no idea how close the epidural was. Once he started picking things up, I watched his map location, was surprised by how slow he was, and decided not to ask for more things.
He agreed, and I went to the hospital... My husband arrived with some snacks at 1pm.
Husband goes home at some point. Next day:
Around 7am I was really panicked. I needed to course correct sharply to something else. I told my boyfriend to wake up my husband and explain to him what was going on.
To sum up:
But I cry uncontrollably when I think of how the actual moment my daughter came out of me feels like a bad drug trip. I have a blurry picture of that moment, only a few details crisp (like seeing the glowing rod coming out of a metal refinery). I remember being confused, misled, tricked into hurting myself, experiencing the birth of my daughter as a great alien rush of self betrayal, with no awareness of her, and full awareness of the people who had surrounded and outnumbered me, who did not seem to deal with me as an intelligent subject, who demanded my attention by shouting at me throughout the whole thing, barraged me with questions afterwards, questions I had already answered. I remembered the array of uniformed medical personnel around me a bluish blur of enemy forces who had worn me down and conquered me.
Indeed, managing the medical staff is the proper role of the husband in this situation. But I guess he was too tired to fully attend the brith of his child!
Walterodim
Only equals speak the truth, that’s my thought on’t
1hr ago
Probably not. I suppose they say they do but I don't really believe them.
100ProofTollBooth
Dumber than a man, but faster than a dog.
1hr ago
I especially don't see how you can raise kids in a poly relationship
You can't. You hit cult territory real quick.
And I'm not boo-outgrouping the Mormons here. I'm earnest when I say that the SF EA polyamory people would do themselves some favors by reading up on the history of polygamy within the LDS. Theological arguments aside, the Mormons have developed a thriving community that has endured despite a hell of a lot of persecution. Hell, they have a $124bn Hedge Fund. And they built this community by carving out a separate peace with the rest of the United States. This meant recognizing that polygamy was largely viewed by non-Mormons as "holy shit, what?" levels of weird. So, they instituted a fatwa against it changed their "laws" on it and mainline-LDS, slowly, became a kind of Utah Flavored version of MegaChurch protestantism.
EA, at its Zenith (SBF at his prime, before the fraud) was getting a lot of positive press as a forward thinking, but non-progressive, ideology that serious thinkers could rally around.
Then the fraud hit. Which is always bad. Then, following the fraud, the icky-sticky reality of the polyamory and Bahamas f*ck house came out. SBF == modern day Brigham Young?
TheDag
Per Aspera ad Astra
1hr ago
Yes sadly that’s the case, and I also think it’s a related problem. That being said, once you figure it out once with one person you’re ideally “done” for the most part.
As Kat says, when you bring poly dynamics in you exponentially increase the amount of conversations you have to have.
To be fair, the risks of Ritalin or gabapentin are obviously much smaller when the baby is about to be born. This in particular:
Is the typical medical CYA nonsense. There's not enough information about whether bagels are safe for the baby either.
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