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A weird bit of culture that might be CW adjacent: The mainly but not completely female Asians/Whites/browns trying to be white passoids are not doing ok. (I assume some non-whites are also suffering here; but they are not as obvious.)
Part of it is conservative centered, mar a lago face and such, but a lot of it seems to cover the whole right to center left range of the political spectrum (I don't know any true Not Blue leftists with cosmetic surgery, maybe it's too bourgeois for them) but it's hitting the conservativ-ish women from age 21-40 demo like the spanish flu. Not a single female trump voter I know hasn't had a major cosmetic procedure; the type where you are laid up for at least a week, and a majority of the normie democrats are right there with them.
What the fuck is going on there? At least you could make an attempt at having the previous weird looking to me beauty standard through exercise; the current one seems to be "I want to look like a starving Ethiopian on a natgeo cover but with big fat punched in the face lips and cheek bones that have been displaced 2 parallels higher on my face than nature provided".
Does anyone actually like this?
At least one of us is in a bubble then. Not counting teeth-whitening, I don’t know a single female Trump voter who’s had any sort of obvious cosmetic work done.
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As far as I understand it this sort of look is a result of runaway intra-female competition. Sure, it starts off with seeing who can become the most attractive to men but after a few years of insular debate and no male input you get this bizarre caricature of what a hot woman looks like.
I sort of feel like the same thing is happening with Clavicular. He looks like what dudes think women find attractive. Do women actually find him particularly attractive? I have no idea.
I put it to the teen daughter, and the response was "Yeah, he's a baddie."
I have absolutely no idea what that means.
She's saying he's hot.
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I'm not saying this isn't happening, but I don't think I've seen a single woman in real life who fits this description. It's entirely reserved for elite conservative women in media/media-adjacent positions. All the normie-lib women I know wouldn't be caught dead getting cosmetic surgery (not saying they wouldn't get it, but it's sufficiently stigmatized that it would have to be really subtle), while all the conservative women I know are midwestern housewife types who would find cosmetic surgery to be absurd vanity. Also, regardless of orientation, a lot of them are too fat for that kind of cosmetic surgery to be credible.
(For reference, I live in Maryland and my family is from the Midwest)
To me the look you are describing has extremely strong Aging Trophy Wife vibes. My gut says that this is probably the intersection of wealth and vanity. The artifice is the point - anyone can go to the gym and get fit, but not everyone can shell out a small fortune to have a doctor rearrange their face.
Are you counting Botox?
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Wow. I thought it was limited to the mar-a-lago types. Didn't realize it was affecting normal people. Do you live in a location at the intersection of performative beauty and polarization ? Miami, Orange County, Hamptons ?
TBF, I don't know any 21-40 yr old Trump voting women in person. I know MAGA men of all ages. I know MAGA women of advanced ages. But no young women.
Could be where you live.
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No women I know have had cosmetic work done. Well, not major stuff, maybe some small procedures that wouldn't necessarily be more widely known, I don't really know.
I remember when tattoos, energy drinks, long hair on males, and cosmetic surgery were all regarded as a bit unseemly; now all of them are more or less socially acceptable. I suspect what you're seeing is much higher rates of approval of this stuff.
I see enough lip filler in the UK to fill a swimming pool. God, don't get me started on the jaundice-tier bronzing and fake tans.
Turkey teeth as well?
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Since 2016 but really 2022-ish second campaign planning there was a noticeable shift by many MAGA-adjacent conservative women to a kind of Miami Latina inspired look with some Hooters Texas bimbo characteristics. Search ‘Kristi Noem before and after’ for the archetypal example.
The look is a combination between the ‘global Latina belt’ look common from Mexico to Lebanon to arguably in a way even corners of SEA, and which is therefore somewhat racially ambiguous and aspects of drag makeup that were reintroduced to the female population as a result of RPDR. It was probably first popularized in the West by the Kardashians in the very early 2010s, but took another decade to make its way to the conservative influencer circuit (as late as 2019, Fox News blondes still had a very different style).
I think you're right. Fox News just had on some tanned Italian woman. Blondes are woke now.
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