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Recently my YouTube algorithm has been taken over by videos featuring Professor Jiang Xueqin. His own channel is called Predictive History but I’ve also watched him talk on other channels. I find his work and theories very interesting, he is a creative person with very heterodox views on the present and world history. He reminds me a lot of Rudyard Lynch (the Whatifhalthist guy) in that they both have creative approaches to history and the present day. I suspect Xueqin is familiar with Lynch’s channel as they are so similar and both reference Peter Turchin’s theory of elite overproduction, the rat/mouse utopia experiments of John B. Calhoun, and have similar views of modernity and modern society.
Xueqin recently ended a 28 part series on his youtube channel titled “Secret History” which is a class he taught (I believe to students in Beijing) which culminates in his theory which he calls Pax Judaica. He uses this term to basically refer to the Zionist project, directed by Zionist Jews inside and outside of Israel, along with Zionist Christians, and secret societies, which are all advocating for war to bring about the Judeo-Christian end times (or something like that.) It’s a complicated theory (that series alone is over 30 hours) but he paints a pretty compelling picture by the end. I am not personally very interested in Jews or Christians but the thought that millennia old religions can sway geopolitics to this degree today irritates me as someone who is basically philosophically an atheist and doesn’t want to be involved in wars of religion in the 2020s or the rest of my life for that matter.
He is not entirely antisemitic, as he also claims that much of the zionist project will face opposition from the Jewish people as well.
He predicts the imminent collapse of the American empire followed by the rise of Pax Judiaca, reinforced by Israeli invented general AI which will be backed by a global surveillance system based in Israel.
I can’t quite place him on the right-left spectrum. My instincts tell me that he is very aware of right wing thinking. There is a video I saw of him where he claims to be “a pretty liberal guy” though I don’t know if he means he’s a “classical liberal” or is making this claim to appeal to left leaning people or if he earnestly believes he is a leftist. I listen to so few people on the left at this point that I suspect he is not really a leftist but it’s possible that the sort of center left has so quickly found itself incorrect in so many ways that it’s sliding into the space of theoretical uncertainty that as recently as a few years ago only the right was willing to explore. Regardless of his own view of his work I think it is unique enough to stand on its own and be examined and taken seriously from either perspective.
At the same time his ideas and views tick every single “conspiracy theorist” trope that we’re trained to identify, to the degree that I’m surprised he’s being pushed by an algorithm as mainstream as YouTube to me. I don’t think his work is so esoteric that he is just eliding censorship, as he has taught high schoolers and I think the language and theories he presents are digestible enough that high schoolers could understand it. It makes me question the narrative that algorithms have a left wing bias and that dissident voices are difficult to find.
If I had to criticize his work I’d say his dismissal of various things is a bit short sighted. He outright dismisses Darwinism and the theory of evolution, something that I find extremely illuminating and one of the few broad scientific theories that reveal and explain rather than obfuscate human nature as well as the broader natural world. That he dismisses it so casually is very revealing to me and points to some discomfort within him with the implications rather than a scientifically reasoned rejection of the theory. He dismisses other things similarly and seemingly randomly, like Freud’s Oedipal complex, while embracing any vague illuminati theory seemingly without evidence, specifics, or rigor.
Anyway, I’m curious to know if anyone else here has engaged with his videos or work, if they have any response to his Pax Judaica concept, or had any other broader response to creative/unorthodox theorists breaking through to normie spaces via algorithm or an apparent lack of censorship that is often framed as ubiquitous.
One thing I don’t think anyone else has mentioned is that the Chinese were all on the right side of WWII and had nothing to with the Holocaust either directly or indirectly. Then they got sealed off from the western memeplex for the next fifty years. And there was no pre-WWII history of anti-Jewish pogroms, expulsions, or legal discrimination against Jews in China. There are also very few Jews in China. So in China, conspiracy theories about Jews running the world don’t have the same ugly associations that they do in the west and aren’t going to get the same level of pushback that they would in the west.
This is not entirely correct. For sure, generally Jews were treated well in China (eg in Harbin they only were harassed by local Russian fascists, somewhat humorously not by the Nazi-aligned Japanese who sought to resettle them in Japan, on grounds of taking Protocols of the Elders of Zion at face value and anticipating high ROI from alignment with the Jewish people). But Kaifeng Jews were at the very least forced to assimilate, and probably abandon endogamy.
Of course, China is so vast and has seen so many different peoples that all of that is a complete nothingburger in their national consciousness. Anecdotally, I have the impression that they thought well of Jews (even of negative stereotypes), assuming that this is NGMI whining of whites who complain of Chinese shrewdness and intelligence in the same manner. Chinese themselves experience relationships somewhat similar to Medieval Jewish-Gentile ones across the broader Sinosphere, eg in Malaysia where they are the educated, clannish middleman minority with financial assets but without hard power. Politically, the PRC is consistently pro-Palestinian but it doesn't have much of an actionable component or popular purchase, and the Israel Question is folded into the broader competition with America, often with this lazy Marxist spin about Israel as the bulwark of global imperialism for those who want an ideological case against he US.
On the other hand I've been told by Mainlanders that China got really redpilled on the JQ after the reports of starvation in Gaza. They take starvation extremely seriously, and then pattern-matched the whole post-Oct 7 dynamic onto Japanese occupation. That may color perceptions going forward.
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It's so interesting to see High IQ white people slowly realising the architecture.
The most dangerous group on the planet and yet the most in the dark.
Can't wait to see what you boys do when you finally wake up!
One thing Marx had right is that religion is the opiate of the masses. Spirituality doesn't wake you up; it simply diverts your attention and efforts from the real to the unreal.
For the record I edited the message before I saw your response.
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It’s interesting that even in Western far right antisemitic circles (eg groypers) they are much more focused on things like Jews in finance, (where there is overrepresentation, sure, but far from dominance) or media (where one could make more of an argument, although it’s certainly no longer the situation it was in the 1990s) than on AI.
Every single major Western AI foundation model company (except xAI, if you want to include it) is owned or run by Jews. OpenAI has Sam Altman, Meta has Zuckerberg, Google is still ultimately controlled by Sergey and Larry, and Anthropic is run by the Amodei siblings, who are also Jewish. Generative AI itself is not an entirely Jewish invention, although Jews were highly overrepresented in its development and in the development of many of the computing innovations that preceded it.
I suspect that these antisemites would rather blame AI on Jews in the sense that it's a “Jewish trick” to extract money while feeding us “goyslop” under the pretenses of building AGI.
Those who take AI seriously are very terrified of the implications.
Amodei siblings are also connected with Holden Karnofsky, of OpenPhil, which can be reasonably described as some kind of New World Order project (albeit, it seems, grossly unsuccessful).
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I think it's a little early for people to start blaming all their problems in life on AI. Once that starts, you can bet that the Jew haters will start noticing Jewish over-representation in the AI field. If by some miracle, AI is seen in a mainly positive light, the claim will be that Jews stole the credit from the non-Jews who did the actual work, and/or that Jewish nepotism kept those non-Jews out.
I'm pretty confident that most of the important AI work is being done in top-secret government labs. Surely military planners have realized the strategic implications of AI advances and have set up Manhattan Project type operations.
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Because western far right antisemites mostly do not think AI is as big a deal as the people on this forum do.
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You darn Jews are hogging all of the IQ. How are we supposed to come up with good theories???
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I'm excited to watch the whole series.
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Many years ago one of my Chinese coworkers asked me if I believed in evolution. I said I did. She said she didn't and another coworker agreed with denying evolution. Both professional workers with degrees.
Googling it, I see around 2/3rds of Chinese people accept human evolution.
While this may or may not have reflected the views of the general Chinese populace, Chinese anthropologists were some of the OG chuds when it comes to human evolution.
Prior to the 2010-or-so confirmation of Neanderthal DNA admixture into modern humans, Western anthropologists insisted upon an "Out-of-Africa," late separation date for forming the approximate ancestral background of the main modern human populations. In contrast, Chinese anthropologists maintained a multiregional (earlier forms of Homo evolved into modern humans in their respective regions), early separation date for forming the approximate ancestral background of the main modern human populations.
Western anthropologists and other racial egalitarians and blank-slatists used the "Out-of-Africa" hypothesis to pound-the-table in forming a "We are all Africans" hugboxy-type consensus to pwn the racists. The discovery and subsequent confirmations of Neanderthal and other archaic admixture into humans suggested that the majority of modern human DNA is indeed that of "Out-of-Africa," but the previous smugness and sanctimony of Western racial egalitarians and blank-slatists in committing to "We are all Africans" made the discovery and confirmations feel like a crushing defeat for them and a resounding victory for the Chinese Chuds.
As such, the whole Western commitment to "We are all Africans" has largely been memory-holed.
I have a sneaking suspicion some of the reasoning behind the Chinese anthropologists was (1) fitting in with the local political theories of 'China has always been at its best when pure and free of meddling foreign influence which brought us to misery' and (2) good old racism: 'no we are not descendants of those monkey-people in that continent!' and (3) 'see, China has always been to the forefront of civilisational advance, we have our own local evolutionary pathways to modern humans!'
I could well be mistaken here, though.
Aren't the ancient north eurasians literally the ancestors of every civilized race and also pretty close to China?
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I've been trying to find a nice take down of "out of Africa" I placed into my notes. It was basically just an argument that Africans and everyone else are quite divergent evolutionarily.
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What did those co-workers believe in place of evolution?
One said God did it.
The Christian God or a different one? I'm curious what specific creation myth(s) are so common in China that 1/3 of the population believes in them.
The impression I got from speaking with Tibetans about their creation myth is that they seem to be "old earth creationists" who believe the earth is older than it actually, like hundreds of billions or trillions of years old. Not sure if the same holds in China.
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I don't know enough about this guy to confidently psychoanalyze him. I will just say that it's really, really uncommon for Easterners to care that much about Jews, as far as I can tell. So I would say that the posters accusing him of engaging in CCP-friendly conspiracy theories that tear apart the West as a grift are probably right.
If Easterners don't care about Jews so much, I wonder what their equivalent minority is. Being in a Western environment means that I don't learn anything about Chinese ethnic groups just by osmosis, so I don't know anything about their minorities.
The equivalent minority for them is the Chinese. Everywhere across Southeast Asia there are Chinese merchant communities that prosper and do much better than the local masses which breeds resentment. There have been historically been anti Chinese pograms in a very similar vein to ant-Jewish pograms. As recently as the 60s Indonesia launched an anti-Chinese/anti-communist pogram that killed a few million people. The Koumintang tried to claim all Chinese he way Israel does Jews and Taiwan will still give out certificates to overseas Chinese. The PRC tried to separate itself from the Chinese diaspora to avoid claims of dual loyalty a frequent (and familiar) charge leveled at the Chinese diaspora. China itself doesn't really have an analogue. You could say Cantonese but they are too geographically concentrated.
Wikipedia says half a million total and that the Chinese were "thousands".
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The Hakka are the obvious analogy, even within China.
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Hmmm, echoing what @Amadan said, as an Easterner, I think we don't care about Jews so much as just accept that Jews are powerful. Kinda like what Amadan already said, it's like a given that "Jews control the [Western] world". At the most basic level, East Asians identify and relate with Jewish attitudes towards education and community. Albert Einstein being a Jew and then all the scientists that worked on the Manhattan project, and then the disproportionate overperformance of Jews with the Nobel prize is like sweet candy to the education-loving Asians. You know how Asian parents compare you to your successful cousins, Jews being powerful is the example of a successful race/community. And community is important to Asians because they do think continuing being "Asian" is a good thing and they look to Jews as an example of how a particular ethnic group retains what makes them them while functioning in the modern Western context.
So with all that context, I actually don't think it's a grift, I think this professor is a genuine believer in whatever he's teaching. A reduced comparison would be like if someone teaches about the Rwanda Genocide and says that power is in the hands of the Tutsi minority historically and in the present (absent of about 40 year period that culminated in said genocide). Since most Asians already have a good impression of this minority, and verifiably we see lots of Jews being big and powerful, it's not a big leap for a person to believe the grander theories as well.
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I've known quite a few Chinese guys who were super interested in Jews, seemingly as a sort of fellow model minority type population, and it seems to me I've seen references to this online as well. I also saw a reference to that one billionaire who was just in the news for having a hundred kids via surrogates having expressed similar fascination with Jews and Judaism, though I can't track it down at the moment.
I've seen a random Chinese guy in a bar ask a Jewish friend to teach him his secrets. And he said it wasn't the first time it had happened many Chinese in China believe all the Jewish conspiracies but cannot understand how that could possibly be a bad thing.
Similarly after consuming their allies propaganda about the Jews the Japanese government thought these superhumans might prove powerful allies or weapons. If you remove the resentment and racial animosity a lot of the theories about Jews make them seem pretty powerful and interesting which is how a lot of Asians see it.
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Isn't it a fad for korean parents to send their kids to hebrew studies for no apparent reason?
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Various Asian diasporas also tend to have vague respect—perhaps even admiration—for Jews. “Oh this minority group with strong in-group preference, high academic and economic achievement, and who supposedly controls everything behind the scenes? Based.”
The GigaChang’s name is Xu Bo, by the way. All or almost all sons (reportedly, some may be natural born) too—bro gave the Daughter Question one thought and was like, “you know what? Miss me with that shit.”
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One of my oddest encounters in Korea was in a small agricultural city in the boonies, where I was often the first Westerner anyone had met. Some girl I'd just met started going off on how she'd learned that Jews controlled everything in the West and were trying to control the world. She was really vehement about it, too! I asked where she heard this, and she just said "Everyone knows this," and I asked if she'd ever met a Jew or really knew what a Jew was, and of course she hadn't. Really odd, but I guess ZOG really is global!
Other Asians.
There are Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, etc., who don't like Westerners, but that's nothing compared to their animosity for each other.
I had similar experiences regarding Koreans and Jews in the late 1990s. I found it very weird then (why would they even have any opinions? it's not like there are any Jews in Korea except a small handful of soldiers at Yongsan...) and I find it very weird now. But I also found them in general to be well-educated but somehow still extremely credulous people and maybe that's the crux of it. I wonder if that's still true.
There are just an absolutely enormous number of well-educated, intelligent people believing things that... do not match up with current western consensus, all over the world. Korea, or other oriental countries, having less investment in western shibboleths, means they're willing to opine about this stuff more.
Or just straight up not understanding them. It used to be fairly common for Chinese to say China has no racism because it has no Black people. I think most Chinese who speak English now realize saying this will offend Westerners but I think most still don't really get why it would.
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I mean, Westerners are also quick to have opinions about East Asian cultural institutions and political issues they know nothing about. Which of the many people outraged at China's treatment of Falun Gong know anything about the organisation?
Most of those people are just using that as a stick to beat China. They don't actually care about the details.
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How many of the people upset about China's treatment of Falun Gong are specifically upset because they're epoch times readers?
Western concerns about China's treatment of Falun Gong predates the Epoch Times - in PMC liberal circles in the UK existence of the Epoch Times has probably weakened the Falun Gong cause by making it vaguely right-coded.
When I was a student in Cambridge in the noughties the Red Chinese government was broadly unpopular for a constellation of reasons, the local student Amnesty group made persecution of Falun Gong one of their key campaigns several years running, and there was a large Falun Dafa mediation/exercise group that existed largely to troll the Red Chinese.
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Why do you give this guy any more credence than you would QAnon or other wackjobs? "Tinfoil hat guy gives lecture about religion responsible for all bad things" is hardly news, and that the Chinese authorities apparently allowed him to lecture about it (a class he taught (I believe to students in Beijing)") is nothing strange, new or startling. Wow, you mean the government which very much objects to anything that challenges its authority as sole arbiter of what its citizens should think and believe, and which has multiple examples of tyring to coerce, control and destroy religious bodies in China, is happy for some propaganda about "Da KKKristians and Da Joos are behind it all and if only there was no religion we'd have peace, love and a currant bun"? You astound me, Holmes!
is it even possible for you people to argue without just sarcastically repeating your opponent's position in a funny voice?
Is it even possible for you people not to get butthurt over people not immediately accepting Youtube algorithm slop?
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Pax judaica is the sort of schizophrenia that plausibly is a partial truth- there might well be some politically influential mega church pastors who believe they can bring about the end times through middle eastern wars.
But, as I’ve said before, red tribe normies, including boomer evangelicals and other ‘hardcore’ zionists, do not believe this. They believe that 1) God will inflict punishment on nations that do not side with Israël, Israël is special for non-eschatological reasons. And 2) Islam is a major threat and Israël fights it overseas.
I won’t defend either of those two beliefs, but those are the beliefs which give US Zionism political power.
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From what little I've seen, he's a conspiratorial slop-merchant peddling some combination of common-sense-implied-as-dark-truth, along with obvious nonsense presented in a confident cadence. I can understand why people get sucked in by the common sense stuff because seeing it repackaged as a "dark truth" can be fun to some people, but accepting the rest of his arguments shows bad things about your epistemic hygiene. I'm a bit more familiar with Whatifalthist, and he fits this description to a T.
You're in a very right wing ecosystem if this is the only narrative you've heard about algorithms. Leftists have been complaining about "radicalization pipelines" for a decade+ now, and it formed one of the key arguments they made for cancel culture.
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I think its quite obvious that Professor Jiang Xueqin engages in the JQ in a way that is wildly conspiratorial in a Western settings, but I cant decide if its antisemittic or just pointing out something that is entirely obvious for outsiders; that a significant portion of the most powerful people in the West are entirely or mostly loyal to Israel.
His thesis about AGI seems more aimed at making his prophecy more urgent. Perhaps there is also som CCP propaganda in there (I havent watched enough of his videos to tell). But during peak woke there was attempts by Russia to present itself as a defender of white, christian, family values and somewhere people could escape wokism. Maybe China wants to present itself as the only ones who can protect you against a zionist AI-powered surveillance dystopia?
I as neutrally as I could explained the US relationship to Israel to my Chinese girlfriend and I'm pretty sure I convinced her that America is cucked beyond belief and turned her into a mild anti-semite.
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I see history less in terms of individual actors and more in terms of the raising of ideas and other social forces that nudge things in general directions. Personally, I think the future will be dictated more by the decline of the West and Western ideas that simply cannot meet the moment, social forces that drive western countries off various cliffs, and bad social memes that cause chaos and bring about poor outcomes for humans who absorb those bad social memes.
My prediction is that the furvor is a symptom of a coming Soviet-style collapse of the Anglo-sphere centric West where the countries in question will still sort of kick along, but much reduced in power and influence, and under the economic and social power of other countries. The future, I think may well be East Asian much like tge seat of civilization was Islamic after the collapse of Rome.
If you're looking to the East because of concerns about TFR and population collapse in the West, I have some bad news for you. China's median citizen is already older than the median American, and is only getting moreso every year. I'm not going to count them out, but an arc like Japan (which was taking over the world in the '80s according to pop culture) seems quite plausible: the country and government are still there and a major power, but rent in Tokyo is no longer the highest in the world and economically has grown slower than it's competitors.
China has a much larger population to work with, and probably still has a moderate decade of growth left, but there are already signs of slowing.
Observation: Child rearing expenses are cumulatively huge, and there's a bit of a One Weird Trick to stop having kids and spend that money on growth elsewhere. It works in the short term, at least. US total education spending is around $1.8T annually, enough to close the budget deficit, although I would distinctly caution against doing so.
I’m thinking largely in the fact that they have a society that values hard work, achievement, and education. Their government is working towards stability and growth and is generally run by people who understand how things work and how to achieve those ends. I think the issues of TFR are probably temporary in most societies and that eventually we’ll work through how to get more babies.
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I've seen him mentioned a few times (including here iirc) but his work seemed to disjointed and slop-y, so I stopped quickly.
They've been boosting dissident voices for a decade bar the topic of covid, in my experience.
Yes it's a bit disjointed and sloppy but I still can glean some interesting insights from it. His concepts aren't completely disjointed but a bit meandering imo.
I did a search for his name as well as "Predictive History" and there were no hits, I lurk extensively here and never saw him mentioned at the motte
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How do you figure? There's been leaks of the Google algorithm where it came out they explicitly derank small independant websites. There was also an analysis of YouTube's recommendations that shows they're trying to pull people to the mainstream. I wouldn't be surprised if Elon was boosting his favorite causes, but it's definitely not what I'd call "boosting diasident voices".
For the past decade, everyone I know (e.g. my grandma) only gets recommended videos of guys in trucks talking about race realism etc. even though they're generic liberals and just try to watch craft videos. I was annoyed by it until I "converted". Overall quality's pretty low, but it's often fairly solid. Lately my grandpa was directed to this gem.
I used to see the "You like politics? Here have some John Oliver" algo in all it's glory, nowadays I mostly get slop that's neither here nor there. Then again I mostly watch it through FreeTube (effectively watching everything via an anonymous tab). What you're getting sounds looks more like profiling than outright boosting, though you probably were on the edges of the cluster they put you in originally.
Man... what do I have to do to get this recommended to me?
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"They" have a very naive and shitty "anti-radicalism" algo going on, certain channels are marked with a wrongthink boolean somewhere in the code, basically any time you watch a video from say The Jimmy Dore show/The grayzone or some of the alt-lite ish channels, they always recommend for the next auto play video an "approved" video from a channel like Fox news or NBC or another "mainstream" "tv" channel. It's comical how persistent the algo has been warped. For years if you searched for Tucker Carlson on youtube the first three videos you got were attempted takedowns by the time telling british dork or "Colbert".
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I watched his first world history / civilization series and really enjoyed it. Also a WIAH fan.
I didn't find the series he just finished to be that engaging and only finished the first 7 episodes.
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