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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 29, 2026

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Let's look into the recent police video that's been going viral on Twitter.

In the video, a lone man is being harassed by a group of foreigners, and they knock him to the ground and hit him. Even before he gets up, a nearby police officer, who has been doing nothing up until then, tackles him into the wall. Understandably he resists somewhat. As a result of these events, the victim in this incident has been arrested and charged, and is now having the book thrown at him. Meanwhile, no effort at all was put into catching the original attackers. The police have released a statement saying they "have no concerns over the officer's actions." They have also asked for people not to share the footage.

This event seems to echo the vibes of a recent incident in Germany where a police officer tackled a bystander, getting himself stabbed to death by a terrorist as a result. It also seems to vibe with the murder of Henry Nowak, where the mortally wounded victim was arrested by the police while his killer was right there gloating.

In the context of culture war it seems like the "right wing" has firmly swung against the police in Europe, which is a big difference from in the United States, where a large portion of the right still is on side "back the blue". Of course there is still an anti-law enforcement wing of the right in the United States, pointing at politically motivated prosecutions, as well as the kid gloves for left-affiliated rioters. I also haven't heard about any similar incidents in the US where where police intervened in a situation on the "wrong" side (though plenty of police brutality in confrontations between police and others). And often American departments are very willing to throw their officers under the rug when the do something that looks bad.

I think to the public, there's a huge difference in police arresting, beating, and killing right wingers, versus being seen as taking the side of a group. Because it's no longer state vs crime (with a sprinkle of biased treatment) but directly being seen as taking a side, though the left has always seen the authority as evil nazi thugs.

Not sure if anything will come of this trend or it's a nothingburger. Maybe increased riots and disorder among the native population, who have historically been quite docile in the last century.

I don't quite understand how it has come to this. In Germany at least the far-right has a convenient theory that they get this as punishment for WWII. That the victorious Allies ensured that Germany, by becoming multicultural, will never re-develop that ethno-nationalistic, militaristic ethos they had pre-WWII. But Britain won WWII. France won WWII. Who pushed them to do this?

Man even I admit that this looks bad...

Completely unjustifiable; the police officers should be disciplined. It's this sort of action that leads to community tensions being (rightfully, I'd add) inflamed.

Not sure if anything will come of this trend or it's a nothingburger.

This particular incident? Almost certainly a nothingburger. Nothing happened after Nowak's death beyond some impotent protests; two-tier policing and the Great Replacement continue.

Unlike the Nowak incident, here the young white man didn't die. Plus the young white man committed the sin of Hitting a Girl, which immediately makes him unsympathetic to both a large contingent of progressives and conservatives—even if she had the Power ImbalanceTM advantage of being a policewoman and he was hurt, confused, and disoriented by just having been culturally enriched.

The World Cup is on-going and especially with England still in it, this gives mainstream media more opportunities to bury or distract from the Birmingham story. Or play the reverse uno card with pro-black signal boosting: "See how Ngubu scored a fackin goal for us? Diversity is our strength!"

This particular incident? Almost certainly a nothingburger.

The Telegraph has now carried the story, and West Midlands Police have issued a press release saying they are now investigating who the African men were that carried out the attack (after initally saying that everything was fine on social media).

My prediction is that BBC News will be covering this tomorrow, along with the centrist papers like The Times. The Guardian will (reluctantly) follow the day after.

Depending on your definition of 'nothingburger', I would say the story is gaining traction. The victim will appear in court in a couple of weeks so I expect there'll be further coverage from that, whether he is found innocent or guilty.

So we can add to the meme! Sorry your daughter got raped and your son was subject to attack and then jail as a result of the attack, but that’s the price to win at soccer

It’s not even the meme with some of these football players. The “American” who got red carded Balogon was only born here. And left at 2 months. In no meaningful sense is he American. He’s basically just a mercenary. So even if there wasn’t the issue of raping my sister for a futball player - it’s basically fraud with him playing for America. He must be the second best at his position in England.

This is something that’s annoyed me about international competitions lately (eg Olympics). There is a certain level of mercenary happening all of the time that cheapens the national element.

We have atleast 2 starters who are just cup of coffee Americans. Looks like 2 more who were military base Americans to foreign wives but never really lived in States, which is probably fine but still stretchy.

For the World Cup for a country like the US I would probably kick the cup of coffee Americans off the team (Balogun and Robinson) but keep the Air Force military brats.

The World Baseball Classic I am fine with the extreme stretchiness because it’s only going to be an exhibition since baseball doesn’t lend itself to national competitions (load management on Pitchers) and the limited geography of the game. You would only have 4-5 competitive teams (USA, Dominican, Venezuela, Japan). Throwing together a mostly second tier US team of guys with Italian surnames for Italy expands the tournament.

Overall international play seems to have at a minimum 1 degree of stretchiness too much for me.

Is that less competitive compared to say basketball?

I think a lot more countries could field a team in basketball. The gap in basketball between US and #2 in baseball was huge. The gap between US in baseball to the 2,3,4 teams today are likely smaller.

I’m not sure the U.S. would really be the favorite to win baseball. Both DR and Japan have great programs with a lot of talent.

You also have Venezuela, Korea, and other LATAM teams of varying quality.

Men generally have a strong instinctive response to what constitutes fair use of violence. Sucker punching, 2 against 1, all this sort of stuff invokes strong feelings. In a sense this might even be worse PR for the police than the Nowak murder. It shows the police as a willing participant in an unfair use of violence. And its an instance of violence that the police didn't even instigate. So they are coming along as a secondary participant after the unfair use of force was observed and are siding against the victim. And its a woman officer that then relies on the mercy of the person she is participating in unfairly victimizing.

The left was ultimately correct. ACAB. There's no sense in ever subjecting yourself or anyone you care about to the whims of these lunatics.

The one thing that will come of this, as is the trend with all this stuff, is an increased harshness in society. Brutality of violence goes up. People stop seeing the human behind the eyes. Every instance like this chips away at the moral code of conduct in society. The next time there are riots there will be more people closer to the edge of throwing a bigger rock with more intent to cause serious harm.

Is there another 90% of the video that everyone else is watching to understand what happened here?

I think most people are just reacting to the social-media clips, but https://youtube.com/watch?v=9t8qVtCm3Js&t=320s is the original video of the incident. (The video is a compilation of various street fights in Birmingham; this particular incident starts at about 5:20 and continues for about four minutes.)

I watched like 15 mins of this video. I think this video is very instructive in teaching people just why I dislike the lower classes. People should watch this and see if they are not immediately revulsed themselves by what they see across many different scenes and different groups of these "nightlife enjoyers"; it's not something particular to any one individual or small group; it's all pervasive amongst this class of people.

Still think white dude in OP's comment was unjustifiably arrested.

I watched like 15 mins of this video. I think this video is very instructive in teaching people just why I dislike the lower classes. People should watch this and see if they are not immediately revulsed themselves by what they see across many different scenes and different groups of these "nightlife enjoyers"; it's not something particular to any one individual or small group; it's all pervasive amongst this class of people.

It feels, at times, like observing a different species.

Yes, exactly! I feel 100% like you just say. Almost like one of those documentaries where you get to observe the bong chav in its native habitat. It's all fun and games as long as we observe the No. 1 cardinal rule which is to never interfere and let nature take its course.

Is there an element of convenience here?

It's much easier to arrest the one guy (who's, let's be real, more likely to respect police authority) than the three guys who'll go all tribal. It still has the effect of ending the altercation. The three guys will process cop and guy= white, two us = black, three, therefore, attack

I think that's behind a lot of two-tier policing; not hating white people, but enforcing the laws that are easy to enforce on the people who will capitulate.

That’s even worse. Sorry we imported a bunch of third world people who commit violence at higher rates. Besides having to live with that, we will arrest you when they attack you because it’s much easier to arrest you who won’t resist too much whereas they might heavily resist.

How is this not waging the culture war? Possibly I have misunderstood the ethos of this weekly thread.

  1. Third world people do in fact commit crimes at higher rates compared to natives. Do you disagree?

  2. Two tier policing in the UK has been noted for awhile. This is yet another example.

Do you disagree?

It seems a valid observation of the kind of dynamics this will inevitably introduce.

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I agree this is waging the culture war.

You recently said something along the lines of “I like the west except its people”

Yes, that's true. There's much I like about the west. For example the institutions are great in theory but the people around them lead to them rotting and withering from inside.

Singapore for instance basically copied British Insitutitons on Independence and has done really really well over the last 70 years while the UK has just declined. The institutions are the same in both places, the only difference is the people, and that's where the divergence in fortunes comes from.

I was just stating a fact, not trying to wage culture war.

Explain how “I hate western people” isn’t waging the cultural war if my claim that third worlders commit crime at higher rates / police fear to arrest them is waging the culture war?

I didn't out and about start harping on about that from nowhere. Someone accused me of hating the west first and I just corrected the record. I like many many aspects of the west, lets be clear here.

I didn't say it was good. I was citing an example of anarcho-tyranny.

This may offer a less malicious explanation for the behavior, but it doesn't really deny the problem. In fact, it makes the problem more intractable, since they will never admit to this explanation. It also incentivizes even more tribalistic behavior to dissuade law enforcement actions. If the purpose of the police is to manage relations between ethnic groups to prevent large scale public disorder and inter-ethnic conflict, then they cannot also treat people as individuals before the law. Every law enforcement action must be first evaluated by the likelihood of it undermining "community relations", and so the ethnicities of the people involved should be at the forefront when deciding when and how to enforce the law. Because whites have lower levels of ethnic solidarity, the trade-off will almost always be to target the whites. This makes a lot of good sense given the new priority to manage ethnic conflicts. The question is how stable this strategy is longer term.

Presumably, these concerns are also driving the abolishment of juries. It allows judges to concern themselves not with individual actions but rather balancing competing ethnic resentments to maintain public order.

Quietly, the entire tradition of British law is being repealed and replaced by merely changing "guidance" documents.

The British Empire having imposed the iniquity of its privilege upon the native population of this territory, I'm afraid the natives must follow the natural conclusion the rest of the world has already come to regarding this problem and demand independence.

England must free itself from the British yoke and become again a nation instead of an imperial protectorate. Only then can the self determination of English natives be assured. And other nations borne out of such circumstances such as Ireland, India and the United States should aid in this endeavour in the spirit of brotherhood that unites free self determined peoples against the evil of colonization.

It also incentivizes even more tribalistic behavior to dissuade law enforcement actions.

Sounds like a few young, white British boys might ought to take one for the team and do their peers the favor of just absolutely beating the living shit out of some of these lady cops. Not like the fem-wankers have guns.

Well, once you've hit a cop ONCE (and you're white) they're already going to put you away forever. In for a penny, in for a pound.

Might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb.

This kind of hair splitting could apply to any instance of alleged 'hatred' in history. It's only being applied to whites by whites since the alternative makes them more uncomfortable.

It's not like left wingers in Europe try to defend this kind of thing either. They might claim that these are isolated incidents that don't prove immigration is a problem, or that we are lacking context for the situation. But there is no way they would defend the officers here.

It's not like left wingers in Europe try to defend this kind of thing either.

Of course not, that implies they acknowledge it's happening. They're just going to pretend it never happens and everyone who thinks otherwise is a crazy far-right conspiracy theorist. They already know journalists won't report on it, so we can just wait for it to blow over and continue as if it never happened.

It's not like left wingers in Europe try to defend this kind of thing either.

You cam see someone defending them right here, although I don't know if they're a left winger.

That looks more like an attempt at being as charitable as possible. But even through this lens, the officers still look bad. They are clearly not doing their job properly. They end the altercation, yes, but she is also arresting an innocent while letting the criminals run away.

There's really not much excuse for this. There was a verbal confrontation, the white guy made an abortive aggressive move. One of the black guys clobbered him after that (ETA: and another rabbit-punches him after), and while he's still staggering, the cop runs in from out of frame, pushes a bystander woman out of the way, and clobbers him against the gate. At which point he reacts to being clobbered by hitting the cop in the back of the neck, and thereby makes himself a felon (this trick works in the US and conservatives defend it, I might add).

Does anyone know what they were saying at the beginning? "Move, move", but also I think "No more [something]", it might be enlightening to know what the something was.

I think the defense solicitor in front of a jury has a relatively easy job. Here was a guy who was just attacked by a group. He is getting up from that attack and someone rushes him and shoves him into a wall. He instinctively defends himself but stops once when he realizes it was a cop.

Yeah, were I on the jury here I would acquit, and if the law said that I must convict based on the facts we've found I would let the other jury members know about jury nullification (or jury equity as we call it here) and try and convince them all to stick up a middle finger to the law in this particular instance.

Law-n-order conservatives turn their brain off when they find out the defendant hit a cop (or a woman, for that matter). Nothing more matters; the circumstances are irrelevant, in their minds you Don't Hit Cops. Everyone else likely to be on the jury was already against him.

I have some sympathy for cops who have to deal with the George Floyds of the world.

But it isn’t unthinking deference. Sometimes the cops fuck up. Moreover, in the UK it seems like the cops are entirely the enemies of the people.

That's an interpretation. I'm not even remotely convinced that it's correct. And I hope it isn't.

I know conservatives who hate cops (or at least think they’re buffoons). But conservatives who go, “we gotta get this big government under control!” and then lick boots completely bewilder me.

Beat cops in shitty areas are effectively societal janitors. Eventually they adapt to dealing with unpleasant, low-trust people all the time and that colors their interactions with society at large. The only well-adjusted people I know who went into the field did their time in the trenches and then quickly found a specialty that did not involve daily catch and release of fent zombies.

Yep. It's impossible not to change - when every single person you restrain shouts "I can't breath" (and all of them can breath just find) it's nearly impossible to stop listening when people shout that.

This expands into everything.

ACAB, but whose bastards? They're bastards whether they serve the left or the right. The left don't hate UK cops because they are their bastards. In the US, the situation is more mixed depending on where, but cops tend to be more culturally on the right. This is the difference.

Also, in a smaller town the cops are more local. They coach my kids in peewee sports. I know some of them, and more by name. Others will at least recognize my last name. "All cops are bastards" is a bit of a different question when I'm asking "are Matt and Justin bastards?" Maybe. But they don't seem particularly more inclined to bastardry than I am.

Also, in a smaller town the cops are more local. They coach my kids in peewee sports.

And give you a ticket on the way home from the game. And then you have to see them again and either pretend you don't hate them for ruining your day, or win the victory over yourself and accept that you did wrong.

Maybe true in New Jersey, but not true in my experience. I was once speeding down a country road going about 25 over. I passed a cop who turned to follow me, flipped on his lights, pulled alongside my stopped vehicle, rolled down his window, and told me to slow down. He then went on his merry way, without bothering to get out of the vehicle or even ask my name. Another time, some friends and I were stopped by a cop while walking down the street late at night. He asked what we were up to and then asked for IDs. When he got to the second person’s driver’s license, he recognized the last name, asked who her dad was, and then they spent a couple of minutes shooting the breeze before he left. He didn’t worry about the rest of the IDs. Small town cops are also usually a lot more forgiving about underage drinking and other minor infractions. Sure, they’ll break up the party, but they’re not going to get anyone in legal trouble unless they really have to.

I've actually never had that experience. The one time I was viciously fucked over by a police department, it was up north, outside a very Blue college town.

The few other run-ins were either resolved with some humanizing small talk (including a different one at the college town, in which I was a huge prick), or straight up Good Old Boy favoritism (which is basically all of my small town encounters).

In the video, a lone man is being harassed by a group of foreigners, and they knock him to the ground and hit him.

Before passing judgment I would want to see what led up to the confrontation. Is there a more complete video available?

Not really; the original video seems to be from a guy who was wandering around filming a bunch of street fights and arrests, and he was focused on a different arrest until roughly the start of the social-media clip.

You can hear someone yelling something like "Move away!", but it's not clear how the confrontation started.

The video also evokes Novak where police arrested the murder victim allegedly for racism while the murderer stood right there. The police actions there may have contributed to Novak’s death.

If the only way to have a multi cultural society is for the white native population to be second class citizens then why would you expect whites to want multi cultural societies?

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