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Rupert Lowe has published on twitter, The rape gang inquiry report
A quick introduction is that for decades in the UK, Pakistani Muslims have been systematically raping young white girls. The police have ignored this at best or helped cover it up at worst because this highlights an inconvenient-to-the-narrative reality about this group of people.
The claims from this report are not some of the most horrific things I have ever read, but by far the most horrific things I have ever read. It's not close. Imagine the worst, most fucked up things you can imagine seeing in "2 girls 1 cup" adjacent abuse porn (I don't know if there is a name for this, but like...where the point seems to be the humiliation and degradation, and often physical harm of the women involved), and then imagine that this was being done at scale to young white (specifically white) girls in the UK for decades by Muslims men from Pakistan.
The report estimates approximately 250,000 young white girls (again, specifically white, they were specifically targeting young white girls) were raped by these men.
Here are my questions/thoughts on this:
Are the men of the UK the most absolutely cucked human beings to ever exist on planet earth ever in the history of time? Is there another time in history where this would have even been remotely tolerated? You allowed a foreign rape-brigade to rape an entire generation of your children, and the response has been essentially nothing.
Is this actually true? I admit I don't know who Rupert Lowe is. Is this a serious person?
What will happen as a result of this? I can't honestly believe that it's nothing, is it?
What should happen? How do you even begin to prosecute something of this scale in a way that doesn't resemble some of the darkest times in human history?
To that point: is this the darkest point in the history of the UK? What would be worse than this?
He's an admirable man, but his decision to found a splinter anti-immigration party to split the Reform vote in order to spite Nigel means that he, individually, could well end up contributing to the rape of thousands of more girls if our next government ends up as a Labour/Green/Islamist coalition.
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The police in the UK have a very bad track record of caring of what happens to the UK's poor and vulnerable. This is more about class than anything else.
As a comparison there's the case of Fred West and his wife Rose West. They raped, tortured and killed and dismembered their victims. It is the most heinous criminal case I know about, that I stopped listening to true crime after hearing this one. One victim went straight to the police after being raped, but because she didn't want to press charges the Fred West was fined 50 pounds. The police failed not just once, not only several dozen times, but more than a hundreds of times to do their due diligence.
I don't recommend reading the details of what they did.
The women that Fred West and his wife killed came from the same crop as Rotherham case.
With how global the world is it can be easy to forget that there's a lot of people being forgotten right here, and what's being done to them.
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State capacity. This is the sort of thing that used to be dealt with by vigilante action, or even by revolution. Neither is possible any more; the state is too good at self-preservation. So if the state wants Pakistani rape gangs to go unpunished, by and large they will... and any vigilantes will be vigorously prosecuted if not accidentally killed awaiting trial.
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This is US, French, and Ukrainian men erasure, in not at least considering them as contenders:
US (white) men, with their simping and water-carrying for blacks, and going along with LatAm illegal immigration.
French men, something similar but with MENA migrants instead of LatAm illegal immigrants.
Ukrainian men, getting bombed and shot at in trenches while their countrywomen are riding the carousel through nightclubs and Tinder dates in Germany, Poland, Czech Republic.
Only you Sloot, could hate women so much to conclude that Ukrainian men dying to defend their homeland from foreign invaders makes them cucks because their women-folk might be having sex. What are Ukrainian women living in Poland meant to do, live out their lives as chaste old maids waiting for dead men?
Genderslop aside, he's pointing at a real problem. What "country" are they fighting for, if one half of the population gets thrown into the meatgrinder, and the other half leaves and starts a new life with foreigners? What's going to be left of the nation after all is said and done? Is it really "woman hating" to expect that they wait for the boys to come home any more than it's "man hating" to conscript them to begin with?
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That would seem somewhat appropriate, until they can return and rebuild with the men. Chastity shows a level of seriousness and an awareness of the sacrifices others are making.
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All of these are quite bad but I think they are a far cry from the mass rape of hundreds of thousands of literal children by foreign gangs.
I want all of the latam illegals gone, and they certainly rape more than the locals, but by and large they marry fat latina chicks and seem content with that.
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Sometimes the partial toleration of native criminal gangs can reduce the influence of foreign criminal gangs, like the way probiotic bacteria outcompete dangerous bacteria for nutrients.
The Japanese seem to have long tolerated the presence of their native yakuza until very recently. The yakuza would probably not tolerate the existence of Pakistani rape gangs in Japan. I believe the yakuza do engage in human trafficking, but that seems more focused on foreign southeast asian women serving a primarily Japanese clientele.
Separately, it seems that only some white, western democracies are susceptible to this particular problem. It doesn't seem to happen anywhere else. So yes, the current generation of white UK men might be the most cucked men ever, so far. At least with colonialism the subject people's women were coerced by some type of force, the white UK men have no such excuse.
AFAIK the London crime scene has had a colorful series of ethnic upheavals on major drug trafficking markets in which the 'Roadmen' class tend to only be involved in relatively petty and antisocial crime since the Albanians have come in whilst way more organized and capable of escalating force on anything that's actually durable and worth doing longterm as a criminal enterprise.
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Apparently this kinda thing is basically how the Mafia got started.
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Indeed, there's actually an even bigger native gang in Japan than the Yakuza that runs a protection racket over the entire home islands.
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If I recall the reports of Rotherham correctly, the typical victim was from the underclass. You might as well ask why the men of Victorian Britain allowed the conditions described in Oliver Twist and the like.
The difference being that, as far as I know, poor people in Victorian Britain were not subject to such levels of police state anarchy-tyranny as modern Britain. Being left to your own devices and ending up victimized by people stronger than you is one thing. Being actively and racially profiled by the police such that if you defend yourselves against people weaker than you, or even speak out against them, you get arrested is an entirely new level of victimization.
I do somewhat agree that the cuck label doesn't apply here due to class distinctions.
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The men of Victorian Britain were straightforward in their class bias and sincerely believed the lower classes were fundamentally-distinct in terms of inclination and potential, and talked about this openly.
Obviously everyone still understands this on some level but in the current context it must be denied at least publicly, and I'm surprised to find that such attitudes persist to such a degree as to result in the lack of outrage we see today.
And yet the same logic isn't applied to immigrants? I'm not trying to be cute when I say that this confuses me.
Like, I can throw cynical epicycles at the problem (something something signaling) but at some point I'm just speculating and every answer seems to raise further questions.
It probably is correct to say, though, that the British upper class considers itself distinct from the rest of the population, which it does not care about the welfare of that much, and that class does not track neatly to race or ethnicity. Rishi Sunak is upper class - he went to Winchester, and has a first from Oxford. He's in the club. The people in the club care about other people in the club, you know, the right sorts of people, made not only by descent but also by education, lifestyle, and even accent.
In this case, both the perpetrators and the victims are lower class, and therefore unimportant. Class solidarity is much stronger than ethnic solidarity. British uppers do not consider themselves 'one people' with British lowers.
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The mistake here is to assume there's widespread ethnic consciousness among native Brits. I don't think that someone like Keir Starmer and most of the men who vote for him consider the victims to be their children in any meaningful sense - it probably registers for them in the same way that hearing about children being abused in Afghanistan does. As for the men who did want to do something about it, a large part of the scandal was that the authorities blocked them from doing so.
My gut instinct is that the figure of 250 000 sounds higher than I would have thought credible, although this might be wishful thinking. I admit I haven't read the report (this whole matter is so grim that I generally try to steer clear of the details). The fact that this seems to have been going on for decades though does make it more believable.
Leader of Restore UK, the party who think Reform are too soft on immigration and would rather implement large-scale remigration. I think he's serious enough that this report will add some fuel to the continued migration of normies away from labour/conservative and towards Reform.
I don't think there'll be rioting and/or mayhem. The people who would want to are too diffuse, and the authorities would come down like a ton of bricks. Any real impact will likely only be felt at the next election.
In an ideal world, all the people involved are appropriately punished and the victims and their families are offered restitution in whatever form is possible. As for how that could happen, well, it can't, because it's not really compatible with how the UK functions as a political entity. The UK is a multi-ethnic administrative and economic zone* with Muslims as the most favoured tribe and where inter-ethnic conflict is a perpetual issue to be managed (maybe this is true of most western nations these days, idk). Addressing these crimes in any way that someone like me or you would presumably see as just would require a complete insutitional re-orientation away from this model at every level. This is probably what the main political fight over the next few decades in the UK is going to be.
*I should mention here that I come from a family of migrants to the UK, although I like to think you wouldn't guess it if you met me IRL.
From my (American) perspective, this seems like half the problem: the race/immigration elements are obvious, but the intra-Anglo class elements seem just as insidious, and less commented on. These complaints were, in part it seems, discarded because the girls in question were lower-class and "that's just how they are".
It feels at least a bit like how the opioid epidemic in the US was ignored as long as it stayed in rural areas and effected poors: "that's just how they are". Even today, it's not hard to find comments from Coastal Elites (tm) expressing indifference to outcomes in "flyover states" or "MAGA country".
I'm sure most of the right would be all on board rounding up all the junkies off the streets and sending them to "rehab.". But you're right that if it's out of sight, most people couldn't care less.
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This. They were broadly treated like child prostitutes and the social workers and NHS staff patched them up and sent them back about their business.
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Most of the stories were previously reported, the new reports are actually quite limited although I appreciated their collation. The report is horrific, although barely more so than many of those published over the last 12 (!) years since the scandal broke. Over that period, of course, net immigration from beyond Europe effectively quintupled, only recently (in the last year) beginning a slow fall, but still far higher than it was in 2014. There is outrage and there is action. Nothing will happen.
Rupert Lowe quit Nigel Farage’s political bloc out of personal disagreement and has now positioned himself to his right. His main effect is that if he can continue to draw 5-7% polling support, then in combination with Farage’s group (~24%), and the Tories who continue to hover around 20-22%, they will split the conservative vote (probably an absolute majority of the voting public) and hand Labour another 5 years in absolute power in 2029.
So we have that to look forward to, which is nice.
Farage seemingly still supports Muslims in the UK as a class. He is okay with a multi cultural society as long as it remains slightly British slightly longer.
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Um...I thought Farage defenestrated him and literally called the cops on him? Did I miss something?
At that point, it's war. If you're gonna screw people over, make sure they'll stay that way. Seems like Farage's miscalculation as much as anything.
You can still criticise Lowe, surely, for taking actions that make it more likely that people he opposes will be elected and will govern his country. If he thinks Reform would be better in government than Labour, and his actions increase the odds of Labour winning, then isn't he undermining what he himself believes is best for the country out of a personal grudge? It seems reasonable to criticise that.
This is all downstream of Britain having an awful FPTP multi-party electoral system, of course.
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Lowe did an interview where he called Farage a cult leader, said he didn’t have what it took to be PM. Farage discovered or invented depending on your view some bullying rumors and used them as pretext to remove him. It was during that growing spat that the police were called.
But that only starts at the middle of the story. They’re both big egos and Farage has always been a solo leader.
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I think this is one of the most important problems our civilization is facing, but I'd really like to get better backing for the 250k stat if we're going to use it; I think it might be true, but it's such an extraordinary claim that extraordinary evidence is merited to make it unimpeachable rather than merely shocking. That's approaching one percent of the current population of white British women, and easily far larger than a percent if we even begin to control for age cohort and affected region.
Bear in mind that the 250k figure includes victims from the 1970s up to the present. I'd be a lot more suspicious if it was e.g. 250k victims in the space of a year.
Also funny that people who were extraordinarily credulous for claims like the Canadian Indigenous Reservation School genocide or acting like Black Deaths in Custody were about 100x higher than they actually are can suddenly do basic mathematics and modeling to contradict this particular issue.
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That's still an average of a small classroom full of new victims every day for fifty years, and I'm guessing it wasn't at a constant rate over those fifty years. (A regular-sized classroom if you're accounting for it just being the girls.)
Rephrasing: this is numerically roughly equivalent to if the UK had established a formal policy in the 1970s that every day, a random class would be selected by lottery and all of its white girls would be sold into sex slavery overseas, and that policy had continued ever since. Maybe it's an alternate timeline where the Ottomans won the World Wars. I don't know.
Its not just the girls.
Oh, I'm sure, but that stat was about the girls. And I was already taking for granted that abusing the girls to that degree is going to indirectly fuck up the boys too; even if we unrealistically assume that you happen to be subjected to no violent crime yourself, what's it going to do to you to grow up as a boy in a community where the majority of your female peers are compelled into sex slavery by foreign invaders?
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